1 00:03:33,589 --> 00:03:30,550 [Music] 2 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:33,599 the smoke radio for the masses headline 3 00:03:38,309 --> 00:03:36,480 edition july 8 1947 4 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:38,319 the army air forces has announced that a 5 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:40,799 flying disc has been found and is now in 6 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:42,480 the possession of the army 7 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:50,070 i occasionally think how quickly 8 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:52,400 our differences worldwide 9 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:53,680 would vanish 10 00:04:02,630 --> 00:03:56,480 if we were facing an alien threat from 11 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:05,429 this is fade to black with your host 12 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:08,080 jimmy church on the game changer radio 13 00:04:16,009 --> 00:04:13,830 i need your help to get to the year 14 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:16,019 1985. 15 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:20,720 [Music] 16 00:04:25,850 --> 00:04:22,720 you are listening to fate to flag with 17 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:25,860 jimmy judge on the game changer network 18 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:33,680 [Music] 19 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,270 fade to black 20 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:45,749 bespoke radio for 21 00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:46,960 the 22 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:48,400 masses 23 00:05:03,830 --> 00:04:51,120 uh yeah man how you doing 24 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:05,510 i would like to welcome everybody 25 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:07,280 listening all around the world all 26 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,639 across the united states hither and 27 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:12,960 tether to and fro back and forth up and 28 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:16,080 down east and west north and south 29 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:18,720 far and near 30 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:21,280 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 31 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:24,639 changer and x networks racehobbs 32 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,600 i am your host jimmy church what is 33 00:05:32,950 --> 00:05:29,680 cracking 34 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:32,960 how you doing how you doing 35 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:35,759 all right we've got an amazing week 36 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:38,800 coming up here on fade to black it is 37 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:42,800 our ufo hearing week 38 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:44,240 that's right 39 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:47,360 tonight stephen bassett of prg is with 40 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:49,360 us for night one 41 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:52,400 tomorrow night sean cahill and a very 42 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:54,639 special guest 43 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:57,520 are here for night two wednesday night 44 00:06:01,510 --> 00:05:59,840 ron james 45 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:01,520 from mufon 46 00:06:06,309 --> 00:06:04,639 is with us for night three thursday is 47 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:06,319 another fader night with open lines all 48 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:07,600 night long 49 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:10,400 and uh coming up i want to let everybody 50 00:06:15,749 --> 00:06:13,199 know we have sold out our tour in egypt 51 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:15,759 this october with billy carson 52 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:19,919 i'll be in detroit next week on june 5th 53 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:22,160 for the world premiere of billy carson's 54 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:23,840 black knight film 55 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:27,280 i'll be hosting disclosure fest 56 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:29,280 coming up in a couple of weeks i can't 57 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:30,560 believe it 58 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:33,039 very quick june 18th 59 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:36,080 one day only saturday in downtown los 60 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:38,000 angeles california at the los angeles 61 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:40,160 state historic park 62 00:06:47,830 --> 00:06:43,280 right next to chinatown 63 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:47,840 that's right chinatown jack nicholson 64 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:51,280 and uh and just go to disclosurefest.org 65 00:06:55,350 --> 00:06:53,360 and the links for everything are 66 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:55,360 all over the web over on our website in 67 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:57,360 the video description box below if you 68 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:59,120 are on youtube 69 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:00,960 i don't know where you are listening 70 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:03,680 where you are watching from what's your 71 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:06,960 what's your platform of choice 72 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:09,120 i don't have any idea 73 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:10,400 but uh 74 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:11,919 we we've got it out there on social 75 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,520 media and over on the website all right 76 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:15,360 follow me on twitter 77 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:16,639 at j 78 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:18,319 church radio 79 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:20,080 that's what you do follow me on twitter 80 00:07:26,469 --> 00:07:23,759 at j church radio the sandbox is hashtag 81 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:26,479 f2b on twitter we don't bite 82 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:29,120 if you want to check out my world of 83 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:31,120 guitars 84 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:33,039 head over to instagram 85 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:35,360 at jimmy church radio 86 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:37,759 yeah i don't have any ufo stuff over 87 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:38,880 there 88 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:41,919 i'm keeping that 89 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,639 my my private little world of music but 90 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:46,800 uh go check it out and i've been posting 91 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:48,000 stuff up 92 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:50,800 over there all guitar related so you can 93 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:53,039 check that out too as well any questions 94 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:54,240 or comments 95 00:07:59,670 --> 00:07:57,360 uh hashtag f2bq and of course the 96 00:08:03,029 --> 00:07:59,680 sandbox is hashtag 97 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:03,039 f2b i've always got the sandbox 98 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:06,400 uh right here to my right it's always 99 00:08:10,869 --> 00:08:08,000 you know like so 100 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:10,879 15 seconds ago madeline 101 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:12,960 hey jimmy what's in your coffee cup 102 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:15,280 today is may 23rd 103 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:18,560 not the 25th oh did i say 25th today's 104 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:20,560 the 23rd 105 00:08:29,589 --> 00:08:26,710 did i say 25th 106 00:08:31,430 --> 00:08:29,599 wow i've got 23rd in front of me here 107 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,440 here and here 108 00:08:35,829 --> 00:08:33,599 and if i look over on my phone let me 109 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:35,839 light that up yeah yeah pretty much it 110 00:08:40,070 --> 00:08:37,519 is may 23rd 111 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:40,080 um so there you go what's in your coffee 112 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:41,839 cup 113 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:43,200 coffee 114 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:51,269 what a weekend 115 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:54,320 i will get to all of that in just a bit 116 00:08:58,389 --> 00:08:56,640 but first 117 00:09:01,829 --> 00:08:58,399 let's get to the breaking news an 118 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:01,839 invasive worm species 119 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:05,440 right first it was murder hornets 120 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:06,880 now 121 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:09,360 it's a worm 122 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:12,000 known for its voracious appetite and 123 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:13,360 ability 124 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:15,600 to jump 125 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:17,200 that's right 126 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:19,440 a foot in the air 127 00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:21,600 has arrived in california where 128 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:23,600 scientists have expressed concerns about 129 00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:25,760 the threat the worms pose 130 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:28,800 to the forest ecosystems it is called 131 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:32,640 the amethyst agrees 132 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:34,640 a grease 133 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:38,080 also known as the asian jumping worm 134 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:41,120 they always come from asia 135 00:09:46,389 --> 00:09:44,000 but it's also called the alabama jumper 136 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:46,399 or the crazy snake worm they've been 137 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:49,279 spotted in california in recent months 138 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:52,240 the earthworm is native to east asia 139 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:54,640 particularly to japan and the korean 140 00:09:58,870 --> 00:09:57,360 peninsula however in recent years 141 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:58,880 however 142 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:00,399 the worms made their way to north 143 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:04,240 america via various imported landscape 144 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:05,440 plants 145 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:07,200 the worms are distinctive for their 146 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:09,519 theatrical behavior including wild 147 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:12,000 movements and even 148 00:10:16,829 --> 00:10:15,120 detaching body parts 149 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:16,839 they're also 150 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:20,160 hermaphrodites and can reproduce 151 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:22,720 without mating 152 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:23,600 yeah 153 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:25,519 i'll just leave that right there coming 154 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:27,040 to a theater 155 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:28,640 near you 156 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:31,920 the alabama what's it called the alabama 157 00:10:35,430 --> 00:10:33,040 jumper 158 00:10:39,269 --> 00:10:35,440 a small town in maine 159 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:39,279 has effectively shut down after its only 160 00:10:41,670 --> 00:10:40,399 clerk 161 00:10:44,790 --> 00:10:41,680 resigned 162 00:10:47,590 --> 00:10:44,800 her name is christian bouchard she 163 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:47,600 resigned from her role as town clerk at 164 00:10:51,430 --> 00:10:50,240 passa dump gag 165 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:51,440 maine 166 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:53,680 that's the actual name of the town 167 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:54,800 pasa 168 00:10:57,670 --> 00:10:56,880 dump keg 169 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:57,680 yeah 170 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:00,880 on april 7th because she was denied her 171 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:03,200 two-week vacation and she was upset so 172 00:11:07,269 --> 00:11:04,480 she quit 173 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:07,279 she was the clerk she was the deputy 174 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:09,839 treasurer she licensed pets she 175 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:11,920 registered vehicles she maintained 176 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:13,760 records with the maine's department of 177 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:16,720 inland fisheries and wildlife you know 178 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:18,800 lake placid 179 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:22,000 she oversaw the 2020 election after just 180 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:25,519 three days of training and two months on 181 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:27,360 the job 182 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:30,000 now with bouchard gone 183 00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:32,079 the town cannot issue vehicle 184 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:35,040 registrations they can't inspect homes 185 00:11:39,509 --> 00:11:37,360 or businesses they can't assess 186 00:11:42,949 --> 00:11:39,519 properties or respond to reports of 187 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:42,959 rabid or abused animals that's right the 188 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:43,920 town 189 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:47,440 has effectively been forced to shut down 190 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:53,350 it's that simple 191 00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:56,880 man she's been running the town 192 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:58,000 you know 193 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:00,079 sometimes you need a break 194 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:06,230 [Laughter] 195 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:08,079 i just got a text from stephen bassett 196 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:10,240 let me tell you something 197 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:12,959 it's a cool dude 198 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:17,519 nasa back in the news 199 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:19,680 because nasa is suspending all but the 200 00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:22,160 most urgent spacewalks 201 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:25,040 after water was found in an astronaut's 202 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:26,160 helmet 203 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:29,040 following a march excursion 204 00:12:33,990 --> 00:12:31,200 nasa will perform an assessment of its 205 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:34,000 emu spacesuits after water was found in 206 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:37,120 the helmet war by esa astronaut matthias 207 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:41,360 maurer following a march 23rd spacewalk 208 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:44,000 this means that astronauts will not go 209 00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:46,880 outside and perform evas unless there is 210 00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:49,120 a pressing need for repairs 211 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:51,680 or a ufo sighting at the international 212 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:54,160 space station given that the affected 213 00:12:59,990 --> 00:12:58,160 emu won't return to earth for analysis 214 00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:00,000 until july 215 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:02,880 nine urgent spacewalks that don't 216 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:04,959 involve e.t 217 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:06,800 will be put off the table for several 218 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:07,920 months 219 00:13:12,150 --> 00:13:10,639 all right well starbucks back in the 220 00:13:14,949 --> 00:13:12,160 news 221 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:14,959 i gotta turn on my ac it's like warm in 222 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:18,320 here and see i got this smart house 223 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:21,680 and uh i got my black mirror house 224 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:24,880 so i just you know i punch it in 225 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:27,920 and and hopefully it uh 226 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:30,480 it listens to me i don't like that 227 00:13:34,310 --> 00:13:32,160 you remember when your dad would go up 228 00:13:36,550 --> 00:13:34,320 and he you know he had that dial and 229 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:36,560 then he had the switch on the bottom 230 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:38,399 and then a little post-it note 231 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:41,680 underneath it don't touch 232 00:13:46,790 --> 00:13:44,720 at least you knew what was going on 233 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:46,800 you don't with a smart home 234 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:49,600 it's just like once in a while it's it 235 00:13:58,870 --> 00:13:54,389 i'm not kidding 236 00:14:02,150 --> 00:13:58,880 about the alarm system 237 00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:02,160 after inkva malmsteen on friday more on 238 00:14:06,949 --> 00:14:04,959 that in just a bit starbucks is leaving 239 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:06,959 russia for good 240 00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:09,760 the company paused its operation and 241 00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:11,680 stopped shipments of its products to 242 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:13,839 russia back in march now 243 00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:17,440 it has made the decision to exits 244 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:20,880 and no longer have a brand presence in 245 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:23,760 russia starbucks has shut down 246 00:14:29,670 --> 00:14:27,199 all of its 130 locations employees in 247 00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:29,680 the country which number about 2 000 248 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:33,440 will get paid for six more months 249 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:35,440 that's it 250 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:37,440 wow 251 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:41,920 little thought there for a second 252 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:44,800 according to a statement released by the 253 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:48,320 university of wyoming 254 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:50,800 excavations led by wyoming state 255 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:53,040 archaeologists and researchers from the 256 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:55,680 university of wyoming have uncovered 257 00:15:01,910 --> 00:14:59,120 evidence of an ancient mine 258 00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:01,920 dated to around 13 000 years ago where 259 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:05,839 paleo indians extracted hematite 260 00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:09,600 and iron oxide which they made red ochre 261 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:10,560 you know 262 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:11,600 paint 263 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:13,839 the researchers believe the mine is 264 00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:16,959 possibly the oldest of any kind 265 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:19,440 in the western hemisphere 266 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:22,800 the wyoming mine known as the polars ii 267 00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:23,760 site 268 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:26,720 is the only red orchard quarry so far 269 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:29,600 documented in north america in in the 270 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:32,160 entire archaeological record and the 271 00:15:38,150 --> 00:15:35,360 only one of five quarries ever to have 272 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:38,160 been identified in all 273 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:40,079 of the americas 274 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:42,800 and that is incredible just absolutely 275 00:15:46,949 --> 00:15:44,800 incredible all i got some breaking news 276 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:46,959 kurt cobain's guitar 277 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:49,120 used in the video for nirvana's lead 278 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:52,240 single smells like teen spirit has been 279 00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:56,320 sold at auction for 4.55 280 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:57,920 million dollars 281 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:01,120 the guitar and 1969 left-handed fender 282 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:04,560 mustang was expected to sell between 600 283 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:07,199 and 800 000 according to julian's 284 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:10,800 auctions the lake placid blue guitar was 285 00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:14,720 bought by the jim irsay collection 286 00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:16,160 that's right 287 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:20,320 out of indianapolis yes jim is the owner 288 00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:24,079 of the indianapolis colts nfl team 289 00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:26,720 incredible lake placid blue i got a lake 290 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:28,639 placid blue strat 291 00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:30,800 right there 292 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:33,199 i don't have kurt cobain's guitar four 293 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,560 and a half 294 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,800 million dollars 295 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:38,959 wow let's get this show cracking on this 296 00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:40,399 day in history 297 00:16:45,269 --> 00:16:42,320 otd 298 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:45,279 1934 299 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:47,920 bonnie and clyde are shot to death in an 300 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,120 ambush 301 00:16:53,509 --> 00:16:51,360 by texas and louisiana state police 302 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:53,519 while driving a stolen car 303 00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:56,959 near salas louisiana 304 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:58,880 fader fact 305 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:01,680 all right here you go now 306 00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:04,799 here here's here's one for you it's for 307 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,959 the record books right here 308 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:08,640 portraits 309 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:10,880 of dead presidents 310 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:13,120 were not depicted on the official 311 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:15,520 currency of the united states of america 312 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:16,799 until 313 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:20,079 the beginning of the 20th century 314 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:23,120 before that the first dollars had the 315 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:25,120 figures and faces 316 00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:26,480 of greek 317 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:29,840 and roman mythology 318 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:31,600 trip on that 319 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:33,120 and that 320 00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:38,710 tonight very special guest steven 321 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:40,799 bassett of prg is with us 322 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:44,320 for night number one of our ufo hearing 323 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:46,640 week tomorrow night sean cahill and a 324 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:49,039 very special guest 325 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:51,760 are here for night two 326 00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:55,120 and then wednesday night ron james of 327 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,600 mufon is here for 328 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:59,360 night three 329 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:01,280 three different points of view maybe 330 00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:04,080 four maybe even five 331 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:07,360 on the ufo hearing from last week on the 332 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:08,480 hill 333 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,480 tonight of course it's stephen bassett 334 00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:12,559 thursday night's another fader night 335 00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:14,960 with open lines all night long now it's 336 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:16,559 time for me to hit 337 00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:18,240 madeline 338 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:32,390 rivermoonwellness.com 339 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:33,430 yeah 340 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,200 i like my coffee doc 341 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:39,360 yeah all right 342 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:43,520 still recovering from friday night 343 00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:49,430 be my river moon wellness 344 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:52,559 fade to black blend 345 00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:55,520 promo code f2b blend 15 off of your 346 00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:57,200 order today 347 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,440 yeah this is my third cup of coffee 348 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,520 today two in the morning 349 00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:03,520 i've got one more waiting for the second 350 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:06,400 half of the show this is number three 351 00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:08,400 and that's a lot of coffee when it's 352 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:11,919 this good okay all right uh where am i 353 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,880 at oh yeah so 354 00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:16,559 so 355 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,320 friday night at the canyon club in 356 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,320 montclair 357 00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:26,320 and i want to take a minute here to 358 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:29,840 thank hospitality manager spencer 359 00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:32,080 for making it a truly special evening 360 00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:34,160 yeah it was food it was drinking it was 361 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:36,400 great seeds spencer thank you so much 362 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,320 i'm sitting uh in the in the band's 363 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:42,400 little lounge area 364 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:43,840 and uh 365 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:45,600 in the city and and i haven't met 366 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:47,039 spencer but he he walks around the 367 00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:47,919 corner 368 00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:49,120 and he 369 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:50,559 there he is 370 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,200 and i was like okay 371 00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:55,679 and uh hi jimmy i'm spencer and i was 372 00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:57,120 like oh man 373 00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:00,480 and spencer literally said to me 374 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,520 i watched the show every night i was 375 00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:05,760 like what in my living room man big 376 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,480 screen so he's probably watching right 377 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:10,240 now and laughing 378 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:12,720 going jimmy doesn't bs because that's 379 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:15,840 exactly what i said to him that was that 380 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,440 was the introduction 381 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:18,960 and that's how 382 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:21,200 that's how the evening started out 383 00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:22,080 um 384 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:23,120 i 385 00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:30,240 hold on hold on hold on hold on 386 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,919 hold on a minute 387 00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:33,840 folks see i'm not even ready this is a 388 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:35,760 live show 389 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:41,760 i did bring this fender strat with me 390 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:44,400 and uh 391 00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:47,360 and got it signed by ingva you can see 392 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:49,280 right there and 393 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:52,640 this is the mini fender strat and it was 394 00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:53,840 that's pretty cool i'll tell you more 395 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:56,720 about it in a second but yeah so 396 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:00,400 uh it says jimmy 397 00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:04,080 play loud that's what it says 398 00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:05,120 and uh 399 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:10,470 thank you spencer for that now do you 400 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:12,640 remember i'm gonna come back to spencer 401 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,440 a few more times um in the next couple 402 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:17,679 of minutes spencer was incredible 403 00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:21,600 um do you remember me sharing a story 404 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,039 uh about how i got to california i've 405 00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,880 i've told it a few times but if you've 406 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:28,240 missed it 407 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:29,440 um 408 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:31,360 i met uh 409 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,480 i met my friend dwayne in indy through 410 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:36,000 his dad 411 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:37,280 i was 412 00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:43,520 and uh 413 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,600 uh i meant to wayne and dwayne at the 414 00:21:48,029 --> 00:21:47,120 time 415 00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:48,039 was 416 00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:49,679 probably 417 00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,039 15 i'm guessing 15 16 he might not have 418 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:55,919 been 16 i was 20. we were kids 419 00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:58,320 and uh that part is you know it's a long 420 00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,679 story 421 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:01,280 but 422 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:02,320 uh 423 00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:05,120 dwayne called into the show 424 00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,480 uh 425 00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:08,640 maybe a year ago 426 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:11,679 and we talked about the time we saw 427 00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:15,120 ingva at the palladium in hollywood 428 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,480 back in like it must have been 1985. 429 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:20,400 and uh 430 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,200 when england hit the stage 431 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,440 and he's out i don't know man black star 432 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,360 whatever it is right i'll see the light 433 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,440 tonight whatever whatever it was 434 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:30,799 um 435 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:33,280 uh when eve hit the stage 436 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,200 i looked over at dwayne dwayne's 437 00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:37,440 standing next to me to my left 438 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,760 and he's got tears coming down his face 439 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:41,280 man 440 00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,880 and he was just looking at the stage it 441 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:44,480 was awesome 442 00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:45,760 i mean 443 00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,600 awesome that's what ingva meant to 444 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:49,919 dwayne and and i know he was just 445 00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:52,159 overwhelmed and it was just so cool and 446 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:53,840 so dwayne called on the show we told 447 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:56,799 that story because hey it's true 448 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,760 b 449 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:00,240 um i think we've all had those moments 450 00:23:05,789 --> 00:23:04,000 when when we get overtaken by emotion 451 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:05,799 well um 452 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,280 37 years later 453 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,120 that kid 454 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,840 dwayne he's grown up 455 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,280 he's a dad 456 00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:17,120 he's got great kids 457 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:18,159 one of his 458 00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:22,400 by the way 459 00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:23,840 dwayne's so proud of that showed me his 460 00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,880 driver's license right there in may 461 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:29,039 and the driver's license 462 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,799 and uh oh and there was another story 463 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:34,400 let's let's back up 464 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,240 uh we were at the movie theater in in 465 00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:40,000 sierra madre 466 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:41,360 and 467 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:44,080 i i don't remember the movie that we saw 468 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,240 whatever it was in 1984 85 469 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:50,159 uh back to the future or something i 470 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,200 don't know uh but after the the movie we 471 00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:54,880 were in the parking lot smoking a little 472 00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,520 weed you know little mary jane a little 473 00:24:01,669 --> 00:24:00,240 marijuana out by the car and the cop 474 00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:01,679 pulls up 475 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:02,960 and 476 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,279 you know it's just long-haired kids it's 477 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:07,840 totally the movie dazed and confused cop 478 00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:10,960 gets out i need to see your right knee 479 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:13,279 you know and i was like oh man 480 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,880 so they come up to dwayne and dwayne 481 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:16,480 goes i don't have id he goes what's your 482 00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:18,320 name and he takes out this pad of paper 483 00:24:26,909 --> 00:24:23,669 god goes 484 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,919 how do you spell that dwayne goes 485 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,640 y-n-g-w-i-e what's your last name 486 00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:30,080 malmsteen 487 00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:35,830 and we're all standing there like he 488 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,960 didn't 489 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:39,360 cop i i think cop called it in and game 490 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:42,320 olmstein right 491 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:44,320 and uh there wasn't a warrant out for 492 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:46,880 freeing vay so dwayne got away with that 493 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,840 but that was dwayne so now fast forward 494 00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:51,760 to friday night 495 00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:54,159 dwayne's grown up and 496 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:55,919 he's just one of my best and oldest 497 00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:59,360 friends in the world obviously 498 00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:02,240 but on friday 499 00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:04,480 he got to hang out with ink vale all day 500 00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:05,919 long 501 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:08,799 and again i want to thank spencer um i 502 00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,200 know dwayne is thanking spencer 503 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:13,360 uh every day for the rest of his life 504 00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:14,799 for this but 505 00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,320 um dwayne got to check this out 506 00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:20,880 the guy with tears 507 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:23,279 at the age of 18 508 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:27,679 got to pick up invade from his hotel 509 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:31,440 and bring him to sound check 510 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:33,440 how cool is that 511 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,269 dwayne's hike 512 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,440 i'm the starbucks runner 513 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:44,400 off off duane went 514 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,279 and uh got him his dinner and and just 515 00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:49,520 was able to hang out with him bay 516 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:52,640 um all day long and it was just so 517 00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:54,400 special for me 518 00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:57,919 um uh yeah uh we got to hang uh mick 519 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,919 stone uh myself mick was the singer in 520 00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,320 my band emergency 521 00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:06,000 um and so the three of us you know 522 00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:07,840 friends of 40 years 523 00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:10,799 um are all their uh my other friend 524 00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,039 olivier who was our roommate at the time 525 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:15,760 and as a matter of fact the four of us 526 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:18,960 mick olivier myself and dwayne all live 527 00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,960 together in the same house at the same 528 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,720 time for a couple of months 529 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,039 so uh 530 00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:28,080 duane uh got to hang out 531 00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:29,039 and 532 00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:32,559 uh in the dressing room 533 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,120 uh talking to ingva 534 00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:38,400 it was uh it was just very special and 535 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,880 uh and taking pictures and i know when i 536 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,320 stood back 537 00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:44,240 and i watched dwayne 538 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,559 uh take those pictures uh with me 539 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:50,720 i mean i was so touched 540 00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,760 i was excited a little bit for me 541 00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,240 and you know and mick and and and all of 542 00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:58,400 that now it was dwayne it was dwayne it 543 00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,520 was a very very very special moment so i 544 00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:03,679 posted up uh some of the pictures i've 545 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:06,159 got a lot i didn't want to just flood 546 00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:07,600 everything we'll save some more for 547 00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,559 later 548 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,360 but uh but i i got to shoot some video i 549 00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:13,840 i shot like three or four 550 00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:17,039 um and one of the videos which is posted 551 00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,399 you can check it out over on my 552 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:21,200 instagram and it's over on facebook 553 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:22,000 um 554 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:23,760 dwayne and i 555 00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,720 walked 556 00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:26,640 backstage from the front of the venue i 557 00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:29,679 got the video running we shoot uh we 558 00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:32,159 walk go through security go backstage 559 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,919 and walk right up to the side of the 560 00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:34,960 stage 561 00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:35,760 and 562 00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:40,159 i think i think that's what he was 563 00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:41,200 playing 564 00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,399 um 565 00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:45,039 and then turned around and 566 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,919 and 567 00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:47,760 looking at dwayne's face that's dwayne 568 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,039 at the end of the video wearing the fade 569 00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,279 to black shirt and 570 00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:53,679 and looking at dwayne's face um it was 571 00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,039 just a very very very special night 572 00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:59,200 and we were just yelling and screaming 573 00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:00,399 and and 574 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,919 and carrying on later on that night um i 575 00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,480 don't talk about social media too often 576 00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,240 but um 577 00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:10,000 so i posted 578 00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:11,840 uh a 579 00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,880 picture 580 00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:14,000 i think 581 00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,279 um 582 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:17,679 and i turned around and 583 00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:22,240 um i saw ingva's phone there in in the 584 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:24,399 dressing room it's it's you can see it 585 00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,840 one of the pictures is sitting right 586 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:26,880 here 587 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:29,440 and uh later on that night i get home uh 588 00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,000 after dealing with the police uh i 589 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,240 kicked off my alarm system which does 590 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,520 work 591 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,840 and uh the police left i go to bed i'm 592 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,279 tired 593 00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,760 and i crawl into bed and i see that 594 00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:43,279 ingva has 595 00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,960 commented 596 00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:46,559 and retweeted 597 00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:49,039 my stuff and and also the stuff i posted 598 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,559 on instagram 599 00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,640 and i thought to myself 600 00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,799 he didn't have to do that 601 00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:56,720 what a cool guy 602 00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,600 and and and it was it was an awesome 603 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:02,640 night and invade um he's probably 604 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,440 playing somewhere right now but uh thank 605 00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,440 you for the hospitality man you're a 606 00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,919 cool dude and thank you for 607 00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:12,799 for making that night for dwayne 608 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:16,559 so so special all right all right 609 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,760 i am your host jimmy church this is fade 610 00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,799 to black 611 00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:22,320 and if you do 612 00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,000 get a chance 613 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,720 if inkvay's coming to your town 614 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,200 go and check him out oh oh i got to give 615 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:32,080 a shout out to his bass player emilio 616 00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:32,880 um 617 00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:36,320 very very very very cool dude 618 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:37,600 and uh 619 00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,720 all right i'm gonna leave that right 620 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:40,159 there this is fade to black i'm your 621 00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:43,600 host jimmy church tonight night one 622 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,640 of our ufo hearing week tonight is night 623 00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,720 one with stephen bassett 624 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,039 tomorrow night we've got sean cahill and 625 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:53,279 a special guest 626 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,360 wednesday night it is ron james of mufon 627 00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,440 and then thursday night 628 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:01,440 is another fader night with open lines 629 00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:03,200 all night long i'm going to say this 630 00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,399 after seeing 631 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:05,919 the canyon club 632 00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:09,360 i think we should do a ufo event there 633 00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,559 what do you guys think about that 634 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:13,679 southern california knock it out 635 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,640 yeah 636 00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,320 i think i can make that happen this is 637 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,799 fade to black i'm yours jimmy church 638 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,240 take a quick break and i'll be right 639 00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:22,480 back with steven bassett of prg stay 640 00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:36,310 [Music] 641 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,470 this is nicole church daughter of you 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00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:42,820 radio 703 00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:03,509 all right welcome back as you can see 704 00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,919 stephen bassett is is ready he's in he's 705 00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,760 in the green room 706 00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:09,200 and uh 707 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,040 sherman 708 00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,200 i just wanted to let you know 709 00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:15,679 that your good friend dwayne 710 00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,000 texted me earlier today 711 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,320 and said 712 00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:21,839 be sure 713 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:23,839 for me 714 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,290 to call a sherman spencer 715 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:27,760 [Music] 716 00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:33,430 there you go 717 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:34,399 all right 718 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,800 sherman you're amazing and thank you uh 719 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:38,399 thank you for the 720 00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:41,200 absolute wonderful evening tonight is 721 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:42,639 night one 722 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:45,919 of our ufo hearing week here on fade to 723 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,960 black tonight uh for night one we have 724 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,399 stephen bassettier of the paradigm 725 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,079 research group 726 00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:54,320 steven is the executive director of the 727 00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:56,159 paradigm research group founded back in 728 00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,920 1996 to end a government-imposed embargo 729 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,000 on the truth behind the so-called ufo 730 00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,720 phenomenon stephen has spoken audiences 731 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,400 around the world about the implications 732 00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,000 of formal disclosure by world 733 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:10,480 governments of an extraterrestrial 734 00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,599 presence engaging the human race he has 735 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:15,599 given over one thousand radio and 736 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,640 television interviews and prg's advocacy 737 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,040 work has been extensively covered by 738 00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:23,760 national and international media of 739 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,280 course back in 2013 prg produced the 740 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,440 citizen hearing on disclosure at the 741 00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:31,680 national press club in washington d.c 742 00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,800 november 5th 2014 prg launched a 743 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:36,400 congressional hearing political 744 00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:39,520 initiative seeking the first hearings on 745 00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:42,480 capitol hill since 1968. 746 00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:44,160 i would like to welcome back to fade to 747 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,119 black the one the only 748 00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,280 stephen bassett steven 749 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,280 big week for you man how you doing how 750 00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:57,349 oh you're muted okay let me you need to 751 00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,200 unmute yourself very sorry very sorry i 752 00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:03,119 don't have control of that you have 753 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:05,040 control of this show young man you can 754 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,720 do whatever you want really oh yeah okay 755 00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,480 all right well look uh yeah it's been 756 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:13,520 quite it's been quite a week uh i feel 757 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,560 really 758 00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:16,960 energized and so we'll be talking about 759 00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:19,280 it uh but first i want to say something 760 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,720 uh jimmy 761 00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,560 there are times particularly when you 762 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,560 get into sort of like more like one of 763 00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,800 your kind of slow reminiscences 764 00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:28,400 kind of talking about some things in the 765 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,280 past 766 00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,040 where i'm listening with my eyes closed 767 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:33,280 and i'm almost taken back to the late 768 00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:34,320 90s 769 00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,839 and aren't bell 770 00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,320 uh listening to him on the east coast 771 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,640 late late into the night and sometimes 772 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,640 when i was on the show just just takes 773 00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,160 me back because there's there's a lot of 774 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:46,400 art bell in you and uh so it's kind of 775 00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:49,760 cool oh man thank you for that i mean 776 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:52,160 yeah yeah you know what they are you 777 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,320 know what also used to happen back in 778 00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,640 the early days of barbell is when people 779 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:58,640 would come on and say art i love your 780 00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:01,440 intro on the show 781 00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:03,359 i hear that here 782 00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,160 and 783 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:06,320 i just think to myself either i'm in a 784 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:07,680 time warp 785 00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:10,400 or uh i'm doing something right you know 786 00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:12,640 and so thank you for that my pleasure 787 00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:15,200 hey you know it's about intro and bumper 788 00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,079 music 789 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:17,920 and that good gravelly voice you put 790 00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,160 that together you got yourself a hit 791 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,240 okay jimmy look uh this is a kind of 792 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,920 important show for me 793 00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,920 i've been giving a lot of interviews and 794 00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,839 i'm going to be saying tonight what i've 795 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:29,359 been saying in the others these other 796 00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,720 interviews and many more i'm going to be 797 00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,800 doing going forward but i'm getting more 798 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:34,960 concise about it which is good because 799 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:37,520 you know me i can go two hours and and 800 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,800 and not even know it right and 801 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:40,880 somebody's looking at me yeah we have to 802 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:43,040 end now so i'm gonna i'm gonna give you 803 00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:43,680 the 804 00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:48,560 i'm gonna let you ask me questions about 805 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:51,680 it uh and so here i go okay you ready 806 00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,560 ready 807 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,720 this is what uh your audience needs to 808 00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,880 hear and and one of the reasons it's 809 00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,400 important is because i believe i'm the 810 00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,560 only person that's really talking about 811 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,480 this in this manner and the reason i 812 00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,480 think for that is i'm still 813 00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,839 maybe there's somebody else out there 814 00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,920 but i'm still pretty much the only 815 00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:09,520 full-time political activist that 816 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:11,280 addresses this issue from that 817 00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:12,560 perspective 818 00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,480 i haven't been dealing with the 819 00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:16,400 phenomenology that much that's not my 820 00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:18,560 area my area is the politics of this 821 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:21,040 which means the truth embargo so i've 822 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,320 spent 26 years thinking about addressing 823 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:26,320 and engaging the truth embargo that the 824 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:28,240 government imposed on this and so 825 00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,680 everything that's happening i don't care 826 00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,480 what it is i see it through that lens 827 00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:34,720 and so through that lens here is what 828 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:36,880 i'm telling you i see and know first of 829 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,520 all 830 00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:39,680 your audience anybody that's watching 831 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,079 what's unfolding whether they're brand 832 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:44,240 new to it and nothing in the past and 833 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:45,440 they're seeing this happening and going 834 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:46,800 oh that's interesting 835 00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:49,119 people that know a little bit more 836 00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,359 and then those that have studied at the 837 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:52,800 issue for years 838 00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,040 here's what i need to tell them 839 00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,520 understand the united states government 840 00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,440 has known meaning those in the 841 00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:01,920 department of defense that need to know 842 00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:04,000 members of congress i assure you going 843 00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,359 all the way back to 1947 844 00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,960 know there's an extraterrestrial 845 00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,200 presence and pretty much no much know 846 00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:13,280 what it is they know this because 847 00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:16,079 roswell was exactly what the researchers 848 00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:17,200 say it was 849 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,839 particularly tom carey and don schmidt 850 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,760 and the definitive book is the witness 851 00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:23,599 to roswell and the and the 852 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:25,680 the the director's cut that came out 853 00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,640 later 854 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,640 the government has had in his possession 855 00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:31,200 a crashed vehicle not of human origin it 856 00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,800 has had in its possession the dead 857 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:35,040 bodies of non-humans and it's had one 858 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:37,440 and it had for a while one live 859 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:38,800 extraterrestrial 860 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:41,440 so again let me repeat that the us 861 00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:42,560 government 862 00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:44,079 those that need to know 863 00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,359 have known this for 75 years they have 864 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:49,200 been investigating it researching 865 00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,400 tracking it and 866 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,160 addressing them from every conceivable 867 00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,880 angle for 75 years 868 00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:56,880 and there are members of congress during 869 00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:59,760 that entire period that knew one way or 870 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,400 another they got tipped off all right so 871 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,240 just keep that in mind 872 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:06,960 okay we deal with what's going on now 873 00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,280 now once you once you've got that in 874 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:11,599 your head right or at least accept it 875 00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:14,160 for the sake of discussion and argument 876 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,599 then reassess and look at things the way 877 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,960 i look at it 878 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:20,640 and when you look at what's been going 879 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:23,680 on for the last five years going back to 880 00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,960 essentially december of 1997 881 00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:28,800 what you are seeing 882 00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:31,839 is not about discovery 883 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:35,359 it is not about the pentagon finding out 884 00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:36,160 that 885 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,200 there's something there it could be real 886 00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:41,520 and we need to maybe investigate it now 887 00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:44,000 maybe even do that in the open 888 00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,599 it is not about discovery it is about 889 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:49,599 public relations 890 00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,520 all right 891 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,280 i want you to put yourself in the shoes 892 00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,119 of anybody in the pentagon that's been 893 00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,359 working on this issue knows about this 894 00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,440 issue and what have you any member of 895 00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,680 congress or staffer that knows the truth 896 00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,520 of this issue knows the e.t presence is 897 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,680 there and maybe have been involved in it 898 00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:09,359 in some indirect way 899 00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:13,240 and imagine that sometime around 900 00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:15,200 2015 901 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:17,200 you start to pretty much come to the 902 00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:18,560 conclusion 903 00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:21,599 not 2015. starting in really 2015 904 00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,920 thereabouts but definitely manifesting 905 00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:25,599 in 2017 906 00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,079 the end of 2017 you start to come to the 907 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:30,880 realization that the truth embargo god 908 00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:34,240 bless it is coming to an end it stays on 909 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:36,880 number it's going to end and when it 910 00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,440 does every american citizen is going to 911 00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:41,119 be told there's an extraterrestrial 912 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,319 presence 913 00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,640 and very shortly after that 914 00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:46,240 that's disclosure by the way everything 915 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,359 after that 916 00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:49,359 post-disclosure they're kind of come to 917 00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,319 learn 918 00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:52,720 that the government's known about it for 919 00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,760 75 years and embargoed it from 920 00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:57,599 the american people 921 00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:01,440 and that is going to be a really awkward 922 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:04,319 time for everybody connected to this 923 00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:05,280 issue 924 00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,920 living dead i mean living dead retired 925 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,599 whatever and particularly those still 926 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:10,960 been working on the issue and still 927 00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,640 working for the government in some 928 00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,760 capacity 929 00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,400 that is it's going to be brutal all 930 00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:18,480 right it's the biggest lie in all of 931 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:20,960 human history no it's not like that lie 932 00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:23,200 about vietnam or the lie about iraq and 933 00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:24,560 others they've done those were kind of 934 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:28,000 short-term uh dealing with war uh which 935 00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:29,359 is important 936 00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:32,240 this isn't short-term lie this is 75 937 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,079 years and the issue that they're lying 938 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,240 about is the most important the human 939 00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:38,560 race has ever dealt with it's about the 940 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,319 most important information the human 941 00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,480 race is ever going to learn and so for 942 00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:44,800 that to suddenly become manifest on the 943 00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,280 day of disclosure poses for them 944 00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:49,760 enormous problems so what do you do if 945 00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,400 you're these people what if you do if 946 00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,560 you're working inside these programs 947 00:42:58,069 --> 00:42:56,240 working in the dod managing it or 948 00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:58,079 whatever else what if you do is you 949 00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,839 simply knowledgeable about it and you're 950 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,680 in government you know it's coming 951 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:03,520 you do what any reasonable person would 952 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:04,240 do 953 00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:05,520 you say look 954 00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,160 we have got to take some measures here 955 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,720 that will sort of distance ourselves 956 00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,960 from this whole truth embargo right 957 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,960 whether i was involved in it or not 958 00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,560 whether i managed it or not doesn't 959 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,480 matter we have got to distance ourselves 960 00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,480 from that truth embargo 961 00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,520 and disclosure event when it takes place 962 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:25,520 now you may say well why what's the 963 00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,750 you go about the proper things you do 964 00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,520 the right things you respond in the 965 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,599 right ways you get more transparent you 966 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:37,680 do this you do that you set up a task 967 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,000 force you talk about uh looking at 968 00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:42,480 reports and changing some protocols and 969 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,680 you do it in the open and you give 970 00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:45,280 reports to congress and the congress 971 00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,960 starts passing legislation the next 972 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,240 thing you know you're having hearings 973 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:50,160 all of these things is the way it always 974 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,520 should have been 975 00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:54,240 going back to the 50s but i i respect 976 00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:56,240 the fact that it wasn't going to happen 977 00:44:02,309 --> 00:43:59,040 in the 50s or 60s 70s or 80s and that is 978 00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,319 because of the nuclear weapons race the 979 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:04,720 cold war and the fact that we all lived 980 00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:07,680 on the edge of destruction under the 981 00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:10,800 aegis of the mutual assert destruction 982 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:13,760 uh approach so okay but 983 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,640 it should have happened after 1991 it 984 00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:18,000 should have happened during the clinton 985 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,440 administration 986 00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:21,119 but unfortunately 987 00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:22,480 well what did happen in the clinton 988 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:25,040 administration was that rockefeller 989 00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,640 approached the administration to try to 990 00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,400 go get those files in other words he was 991 00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:30,800 servicing for three years a project to 992 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,079 get the white house to force the 993 00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:36,319 department of defense to give him what 994 00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,839 he wanted so he could disclose 995 00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:40,079 unfortunately that wasn't going to work 996 00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:41,599 certainly not then he was completely 997 00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,240 stonewalled embarrassed well got 998 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:46,079 attacked and ultimately they came up 999 00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:47,200 with complete 1000 00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:48,800 bogus lies 1001 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,520 including the air force report of 1997 1002 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,119 which is one of the greatest disgraces 1003 00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,720 the air force has ever had where they 1004 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,480 simply spent millions of dollars to lie 1005 00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,040 about the whole thing it couldn't work 1006 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:01,200 this has got to go through congress it 1007 00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,760 has to go through a congress 1008 00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:05,920 with with congressional hearings which 1009 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,640 is why since 1968 1010 00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,520 many many people people that we know 1011 00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:13,520 have tried to get those hearings coming 1012 00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,960 at the congress from many different 1013 00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:17,280 angles and every single effort was 1014 00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,720 blocked cold 1015 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:20,880 a couple that i knew about one of them i 1016 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,800 know was blocked by the then chairman of 1017 00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,200 the intelligence committee uh because 1018 00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,200 the government knew those that knew 1019 00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,200 about the issue knew that actual 1020 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,200 hearings real hearings in front of the 1021 00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:33,920 congress with everybody watching aired 1022 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,839 on all the networks would end the truth 1023 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:38,160 embargo and so unless you were prepared 1024 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:39,680 to end the truth embargo you could not 1025 00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:42,880 have those hearings so 54 years go by 1026 00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,839 and we don't have those hearings all 1027 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,720 right 1028 00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,520 but 1029 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,000 obviously that has changed 1030 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:53,440 and so starting in 2017 1031 00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,000 things get underway that are essentially 1032 00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:58,319 leading there and what are those things 1033 00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:00,079 first the the emergence of the to the 1034 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,720 stars academy fine 1035 00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,960 then the delivery of the information by 1036 00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,400 blumenthal and kane to the new york 1037 00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:07,839 times putting out those two 1038 00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:10,880 extraordinary groundbreaking milestone 1039 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,040 paradigm shifting articles right which 1040 00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:14,800 will go down in history 1041 00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,440 that explodes it into the media i've now 1042 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:19,920 put into my print media archive way over 1043 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,200 1500 articles directly related to all 1044 00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,960 that came out of those two articles 1045 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,319 going forward they're all earmarked you 1046 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:28,960 can go read all 1500 of them obviously 1047 00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,400 that is going to start getting things 1048 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,839 going right 1049 00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:33,599 but something else happened 1050 00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:35,119 two of the people inside the to the 1051 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,280 stars academy group luis elizondo and 1052 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,440 christopher mellon weren't just in there 1053 00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:40,960 so they could be part of a public 1054 00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,119 benefit corporation or whatever they 1055 00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,280 were in there because they had a plan 1056 00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:47,359 they had an agenda which i believe was 1057 00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,520 also i think the plan of the other 1058 00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,599 people but not everybody was going to be 1059 00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,839 able to front this it was melon and 1060 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,680 elizondo that were going to front it so 1061 00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:57,520 they took off they split eventually away 1062 00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,720 from the ttsa and for several years now 1063 00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:02,240 like it wasn't supposed to take this 1064 00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,079 long i assure you it wasn't supposed to 1065 00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,839 take five years because that is not what 1066 00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:07,920 they wanted and it's not been helpful to 1067 00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,400 them but nevertheless they they took 1068 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,720 advantage of this time and they went out 1069 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,800 to lay the groundwork for the hearings 1070 00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,079 that must happen 1071 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:18,640 now melon was the point person on the 1072 00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,400 hearings he was the one going up on the 1073 00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,559 hill bringing witnesses uh briefing 1074 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:24,079 members of congress particularly the 1075 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:25,520 intel committees the armed forces 1076 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,520 committees armed services committees we 1077 00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:29,920 have no idea how many uh briefings he 1078 00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:32,400 gave i think it was a lot because they 1079 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,640 were not publicized except to the extent 1080 00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:36,160 that a member might mention they had a 1081 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,240 briefing that even the president was 1082 00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,800 briefed on this it was behind the scenes 1083 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,119 briefings clearly in preparation for the 1084 00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,760 congress to take action at a later time 1085 00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,000 mellon did something extraordinary there 1086 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:50,400 and he will be acknowledged for that 1087 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:53,440 the other person was elizondo his role i 1088 00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:55,040 believe and again i'm i'm more than 1089 00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,720 prepared to be corrected right by the 1090 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,240 principles i'll get in touch with me and 1091 00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,520 say steve you got it wrong here's the 1092 00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,160 way it is elizondo was to be the the 1093 00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,720 spokesperson in a way the the the the 1094 00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,240 guy that was going to try to convey this 1095 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,640 to the general public uh and keep the 1096 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:10,400 thing alive because it wasn't supposed 1097 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,960 to get stretched out and and so what 1098 00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,800 they were doing they they needed to keep 1099 00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:16,720 it alive in the public's mind so not 1100 00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:19,280 surprisingly elizondo was done what 30 1101 00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:22,640 40 50 60 70 podcasts he's cut into 1102 00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:25,359 another interview later this week and 1103 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:28,079 and and that's great except that it was 1104 00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,960 tough 1105 00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,640 because if you're going to be the po 1106 00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,480 spokesperson if you're going to go on 1107 00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:34,240 podcast after podcast and talk about 1108 00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,400 this and talk about this and answer 1109 00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,240 and have to take all of these questions 1110 00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,319 some of which you really can't answer 1111 00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,240 you have to defer repeatedly to the fact 1112 00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:44,079 that you can't speak to that it's 1113 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:45,359 classified 1114 00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:47,440 uh you are going to become the target of 1115 00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,160 every troll on the internet you are the 1116 00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:52,160 target not melon he's sitting back 1117 00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:53,839 you're the out the guy out there taking 1118 00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,480 arrow after arrow after arrow it has 1119 00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,720 been brutal i have watched it take place 1120 00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,400 and i have nothing professionally for 1121 00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,280 this man but he was doing something else 1122 00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,920 the unidentified show and interviews 1123 00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:07,680 that he's given he has been vetting 1124 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,400 witnesses he has been vetting witnesses 1125 00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:12,000 that are potential witnesses before 1126 00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:13,839 congress and that means military people 1127 00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:15,680 like dietrich like fravor like the 1128 00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,359 nuclear weapons tampering witnesses and 1129 00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,480 so forth 1130 00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,240 setting the witnesses or at least 1131 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,400 getting the names talking to them so 1132 00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,640 that when the time comes those witnesses 1133 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,480 are going to be prepared to step out 1134 00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:28,800 come up to the hill and testify and 1135 00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,960 that's pretty much all behind the scenes 1136 00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,880 he talks about it a little bit recently 1137 00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:34,800 he's mentioned the need for hearings 1138 00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,559 he's not the only one 1139 00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:38,319 these are the two 1140 00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,200 people 1141 00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:41,760 who have fronted the process that has 1142 00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,559 led us to what happened on tuesday the 1143 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,599 most 1144 00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:47,520 but in addition to what elizondo and 1145 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,000 melon have done the the journalists need 1146 00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:53,040 a tremendous amount of uh of credit here 1147 00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,359 because they have stepped up with 1148 00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:57,440 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 1149 00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:58,559 articles 1150 00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:02,000 about what is going on from every angle 1151 00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:04,000 in all the major papers and so every 1152 00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:05,440 time the washington post and new york 1153 00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:08,160 times uh any of the major 1154 00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:11,040 networks have somebody on politico do 1155 00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:12,880 stories legitimate stories covering this 1156 00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:14,960 process they are backing melon and 1157 00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:17,839 lozando up and then something else was 1158 00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,079 finally happening the language was 1159 00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,720 changing the language of the embargo the 1160 00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,480 language of the intellectual ghetto the 1161 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:27,040 government created was changing we were 1162 00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:30,160 leaving it behind it's not about ufos 1163 00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,800 it's about uaps because ufo is the the 1164 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,000 ridicule 1165 00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:38,880 a name the acronym designed to sep 1166 00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,599 separate everybody out if you say ufo 1167 00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,240 you're a ufo tin foil hatter end of 1168 00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,000 story don't care what you know don't 1169 00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,400 care what you think get out of here but 1170 00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,720 uap which means exactly the same thing 1171 00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:53,200 doesn't carry all of that baggage and so 1172 00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:55,119 you can say that and not have people 1173 00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:57,040 give you that stupid look and so what 1174 00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,640 have you seen the last couple years the 1175 00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:01,200 journalists are using it the the 1176 00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,920 the 1177 00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,599 members of congress are using it 1178 00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:05,040 scientists are using it it's the 1179 00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,640 language that turns up in the laws that 1180 00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,240 are being passed but there are other 1181 00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,400 ways the languages have changed right 1182 00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,960 embargo not cover-up and so forth 1183 00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,640 language is important in order to 1184 00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:16,800 advance politics and so that has taken 1185 00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,079 place the journalists have helped that 1186 00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:20,480 happen all good all right 1187 00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:24,400 and then finally right 1188 00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,960 a member of congress right after many 1189 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,640 members had mentioned the issue talked 1190 00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,240 to the issue put language and 1191 00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,400 legislation all that back and forth 1192 00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:34,880 which we can talk about in a show 1193 00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,599 said okay i'm holding a hearing all 1194 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,920 right and that hearing took place on may 1195 00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:42,480 the 17th it will go down in history it 1196 00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,119 was exactly what i was expected though a 1197 00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,640 lot of people are not looking at it 1198 00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:48,800 through my lens are going 1199 00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:51,520 are you kidding me this is crap this is 1200 00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,800 this is nothing they should have done 1201 00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:54,000 this they should have done that that's 1202 00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,760 ridiculous that doesn't make sense 1203 00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,400 however when you look at it 1204 00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,319 under the the way the way that i have 1205 00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,079 talked about meaning the government 1206 00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,000 already knows what the et's are the 1207 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,839 government already knows what these 1208 00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:08,400 craft are at least in terms of knowing 1209 00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,920 that they're extraterrestrial and maybe 1210 00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:11,440 knowing a lot more about them that they 1211 00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:13,839 talk about now right then you begin to 1212 00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,760 realize why it doesn't quite make sense 1213 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:17,599 why that that doesn't make sense and 1214 00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:20,000 this person said that but then once you 1215 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:22,240 realize oh i get it 1216 00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,119 right 1217 00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,359 they have to do this in order to make 1218 00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,000 disclosure possible they have to do this 1219 00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:30,400 to make it to bring a congress involved 1220 00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:32,559 to bring the dod involved to give them a 1221 00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:35,359 chance to show the people what the right 1222 00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:37,119 way is because the people have short 1223 00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,160 memories 1224 00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,599 they will they will react to what 1225 00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,280 they've just seen they're not going to 1226 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:43,280 go back years and years and go wait a 1227 00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:44,880 minute why not that they're going to say 1228 00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,640 hey what you've done lately 1229 00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:48,559 that is what's taking place and i'm 1230 00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:51,280 inviting people to look at it that way 1231 00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,040 and uh we'll talk you know and i'll 1232 00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:54,800 answer any questions you got about it 1233 00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:58,480 well i see you go i spoke uh at length 1234 00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:01,040 yesterday with lou um 1235 00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,640 discussing the hearing obviously and 1236 00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:04,640 some other things and 1237 00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,040 um at the start of the conversation i 1238 00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:09,440 mean that's all private but but i'll say 1239 00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:10,640 this 1240 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,960 um 1241 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:14,640 when i picked up 1242 00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:17,440 and uh i said dude 1243 00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:20,240 crazy week yeah right 1244 00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:22,319 and his response was this 1245 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,960 he said jimmy buckle up 1246 00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,119 it was cool but we're just getting 1247 00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,480 started this is just the beginning 1248 00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,319 and and get ready for some things over 1249 00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,559 the next couple of weeks 1250 00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,040 and and the way that 1251 00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:39,280 he's i you know i know i know lou well 1252 00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:41,119 enough now um 1253 00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:43,359 to say that i can detect the tone in his 1254 00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,400 voice 1255 00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,040 um uh he loves to joke he loves to kid 1256 00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,960 around he's a funny guy 1257 00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:51,119 um but when he's serious he's very 1258 00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:53,520 serious he has a way of of projecting 1259 00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:55,040 that where i just you know i snapped to 1260 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,520 attention and and i did when he said 1261 00:54:03,349 --> 00:53:58,880 that yesterday 1262 00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:03,359 um and and that being said um i think 1263 00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:04,559 that 1264 00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,240 uh he really really no no i i just said 1265 00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,640 i think i know 1266 00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:12,319 that he really just wants to run in the 1267 00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,839 background 1268 00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:15,280 he doesn't want 1269 00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:19,920 pat himself on the back 1270 00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,200 um he is in a genuine position uh 1271 00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:27,359 to to put everything that he's got into 1272 00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:30,000 this to to move things forward 1273 00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,240 and with the personality like his behind 1274 00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,000 this entire thing 1275 00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:38,720 i would say that we're it's our it's our 1276 00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:39,920 best shot 1277 00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:42,880 for sure stephen now uh before 1278 00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,400 i let this thought get away from me 1279 00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:48,640 uh a few months ago you were a guest at 1280 00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:52,079 my house we had dinner yeah we got until 1281 00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:53,839 late into the night we discussed i think 1282 00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:56,079 we discussed pretty much 1283 00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,319 every angle of uh 1284 00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,559 of disclosure in the ufo question and i 1285 00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:02,400 want to do that again please that was a 1286 00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,160 fun night that was a fun night it was 1287 00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:06,960 great food uh great conversation and yes 1288 00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,079 uh absolutely but here's the deal 1289 00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,720 uh the one thing we didn't talk about 1290 00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,920 was 1291 00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,680 a hearing 1292 00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:17,760 on capitol hill 1293 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,960 we didn't have any idea um were you 1294 00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:22,400 surprised 1295 00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:24,799 uh as the rest of us were to have it 1296 00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:26,240 announced and 1297 00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:27,920 and then a week later it actually went 1298 00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,720 down 1299 00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:30,880 uh were you surprised to have it happen 1300 00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:32,319 this quickly 1301 00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:33,520 i know 1302 00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,640 jimmy well before we had that dinner i 1303 00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,160 was telling i was i was giving 1304 00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,079 interviews one after another after 1305 00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:41,760 another saying hearings are coming 1306 00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,079 they're inevitable uh based upon 1307 00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,400 everything that happened since 2017 and 1308 00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:48,720 following uh elizondo and mellon's 1309 00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:51,680 activities uh closely uh and all they 1310 00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,200 were doing i absolutely knew hearings 1311 00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:54,960 were coming so no i want me this way the 1312 00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,280 only reason i was surprised right is 1313 00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:59,119 because 1314 00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,480 aside from everything else that's 1315 00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,960 happening out there as as things are 1316 00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:04,400 starting to shape up and i'm feeling 1317 00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:05,839 very optimistic 1318 00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,640 uh vladimir putin and aging possibly 1319 00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:10,400 dying of cancer autocrat decides he 1320 00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:12,400 wants to go out by 1321 00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,839 invading a country and killing women and 1322 00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,000 children on the way out uh and also 1323 00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:18,559 rattling the nuclear uh weapon saber day 1324 00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:21,359 after day so i'm thinking boy that is 1325 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,480 not going to help uh any committee chair 1326 00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,559 call for hearings on this rights on the 1327 00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:28,319 basis of look we could have a nuclear 1328 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:29,839 war so we need to put that off to the 1329 00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,640 side uh so in that sense when carson 1330 00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:35,040 called it uh that surprised me a little 1331 00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:37,520 bit and uh but i believe 1332 00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:39,760 that well and we can get into this later 1333 00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,119 right because i want to mention some 1334 00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,599 about lou again uh i believe that the 1335 00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,680 calculus of calling that hearing in 1336 00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,960 spite of what's going on in ukraine 1337 00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,040 makes sense and in spite of the 1338 00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:51,359 presidential i mean the uh uh 1339 00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,200 uh midterm elections that are coming up 1340 00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:54,799 make sense and i'll talk about that but 1341 00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,480 let me just mention lou 1342 00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:58,319 one of the things i think one of them 1343 00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:59,440 you know four or five interviews he's 1344 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:01,119 done since the hearing 1345 00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:02,480 i think he's mentioned yeah we need 1346 00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,160 witnesses and we need more hearings he's 1347 00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:06,480 not the only one saying that okay 1348 00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:07,520 and uh 1349 00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:09,359 and that's just his way of hey you know 1350 00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:10,799 letting people know this can't be the 1351 00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:13,520 first one but i gotta believe that nolan 1352 00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:16,160 was more more thrilled than lou elizondo 1353 00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,079 when he's watching that hearing because 1354 00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,319 he knows probably the worst is over and 1355 00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:22,480 what i mean by that 1356 00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,040 i think he will step into the background 1357 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:26,960 uh uh 1358 00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,960 and and the reason for that is well two 1359 00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:31,280 reasons for that he's he's got enough 1360 00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,319 arrows in his in in him right and he's 1361 00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,319 dealt with enough internet social media 1362 00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,480 trolling he can he needs a vacation but 1363 00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:40,559 more importantly the process is now 1364 00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:41,599 starting 1365 00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,240 he he's likely going to step back and 1366 00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,799 start working behind the scenes 1367 00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,480 to help 1368 00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:50,559 prepare for these next hearings i have 1369 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,400 no doubt he is going to be involved in 1370 00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,400 that i can't imagine he wouldn't be 1371 00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:56,960 mellon is already in the background okay 1372 00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:59,040 and so i expect him to step back he 1373 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,119 doesn't need to i think to do 1374 00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:03,280 any more podcasts for a while this thing 1375 00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,240 is happening uh people are they don't 1376 00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,319 they know that and uh he'll he'll 1377 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,079 re-emerge i suppose at some point but 1378 00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,160 this is a logical thing and uh that's a 1379 00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:14,000 good sign it means that he's going to be 1380 00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,440 doing some things in the background that 1381 00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,040 is going to ensure that the next 1382 00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:19,760 hearings come soon i'm hoping it's in in 1383 00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:21,200 two weeks 1384 00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:23,040 let's uh let's get ready to take our 1385 00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:25,119 break when we come back i want to get 1386 00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:26,880 into uh 1387 00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:29,280 some very specific specifics about the 1388 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:30,559 hearing and 1389 00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:33,520 get your thoughts on on all of that 1390 00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:37,839 um i i will say my overall 1391 00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:40,079 uh take and immediately after the 1392 00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,559 hearing because i was i was tweeting out 1393 00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:44,400 at 6 00 a.m 1394 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,000 uh i watched it live that the immediate 1395 00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,240 reaction from everybody kind of 1396 00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,160 surprised me i just felt like did you 1397 00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:54,720 guys even see the same thing that i saw 1398 00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:58,240 and i but this was my take 1399 00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,240 um i said that i just saw 1400 00:59:05,470 --> 00:59:04,559 or just heard and saw 1401 00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:05,480 e.t 1402 00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:09,520 extraterrestrials uh roswell blue book 1403 00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:12,960 uh flying saucers uh the wilson davis 1404 00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:15,599 dock mound stream air force base all 1405 00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:16,960 mentioned 1406 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:20,160 at a hearing on capitol hill 1407 00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:21,839 at the same time 1408 00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:24,720 it was a great day well you you have 1409 00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:26,960 done 40 what thousand interviews i mean 1410 00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:28,240 you you 1411 00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:30,079 and if you've got a good memory i think 1412 00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,319 you do you actually have a massive 1413 00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:34,240 amount of knowledge up there from 1414 00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:36,079 interviewing just about everybody in the 1415 00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,240 field and so you're like in my position 1416 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,319 i mean you're looking at that with that 1417 00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:42,240 knowledge and you were able to pick up 1418 00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:44,079 on what was valuable and and there's 1419 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:45,200 some things you might have missed we'll 1420 00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:46,960 talk about that after break and i want 1421 00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:49,599 people to know look what you saw that 1422 00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:52,480 day will go down in history i'm telling 1423 00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:55,119 you okay and so be happy and be 1424 00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,520 supportive of your members of congress 1425 01:00:01,990 --> 00:59:59,520 and the dod they're actually trying to 1426 01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,000 get the job done but they have a process 1427 01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:04,319 they got to go through in order to make 1428 01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:06,160 it as comfortable as possible 1429 01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,240 our guest tonight the one and only 1430 01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:10,640 stephen bassett i am your host jimmy 1431 01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:12,640 church we're going to take a quick break 1432 01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,160 right here this is fade to black and the 1433 01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,799 game changer and on x networks 1434 01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,240 i'll be right back after this short 1435 01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:20,559 break tonight is night one 1436 01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:23,520 of ufo hearing week here on fade to 1437 01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,559 black 1438 01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:26,960 stay with us we'll be right back after 1439 01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:37,640 [Music] 1440 01:00:58,420 --> 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listening to jimmy church a 1498 01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:39,520 revolution 1499 01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:41,200 this is jimmy churchill fade to black 1500 01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,119 and you can become an official fate or 1501 01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:45,440 not by just going to our membership 1502 01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:46,400 section 1503 01:03:54,069 --> 01:03:51,750 hello this is serena wright taylor from 1504 01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:54,079 conscious life expo and you're listening 1505 01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:56,480 to fade to black with jimmy church who 1506 01:04:02,390 --> 01:03:58,799 holds the lucky pony record for the best 1507 01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:02,400 astrological chart since 1963. true 1508 01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:04,240 story 1509 01:04:07,589 --> 01:04:05,920 this is micah hanks of the ghrelian 1510 01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:07,599 report and you're listening to jimmy 1511 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:29,430 this 1512 01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:31,510 all right welcome back fade to black i 1513 01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:32,960 am your host jimmy church tonight the 1514 01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:36,000 one and only steve ambassadors here prg 1515 01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:37,920 for night one 1516 01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:40,319 of ufo hearing week here on fade to 1517 01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:44,400 black it is such a special time not only 1518 01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:46,799 for members of our community but 1519 01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:49,119 uh people like steven that have been at 1520 01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,480 this for a very long time we're going to 1521 01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:54,960 cover this from every angle this week 1522 01:05:01,829 --> 01:04:57,760 and uh going back uh to the conversation 1523 01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:01,839 stephen um i had mentioned um uh i want 1524 01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:04,240 to go through some of the highlights 1525 01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:07,280 uh for the week but it it 1526 01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:08,960 i want to start off 1527 01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:11,039 not with the hearing 1528 01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:12,000 but 1529 01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:14,559 what happened right before the hearing 1530 01:05:19,829 --> 01:05:17,200 and that was representative andre carson 1531 01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:19,839 of indiana his tweet 1532 01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:22,799 his tweet announcing the hearings 1533 01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:25,280 said ufos in it 1534 01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:28,640 and now he he typed out unidentified 1535 01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:30,160 aerial phenomena but then he put in 1536 01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:32,400 parentheses ufos 1537 01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:33,119 and 1538 01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:39,440 this hearing was about ufos 1539 01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:41,440 and he wanted to make that very clear 1540 01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:43,280 was that the vibe that you got going 1541 01:05:47,829 --> 01:05:46,480 into this not exactly i think that 1542 01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:47,839 i think that he 1543 01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,480 he's he's this transition from ufo to 1544 01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:51,599 uap 1545 01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:53,839 which is really the transition from from 1546 01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:56,079 the truth embargo to 1547 01:06:02,390 --> 01:05:59,200 the truth process he's a little behind 1548 01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,400 the curve all right but i think also 1549 01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,640 he really wanted people to understand 1550 01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:06,480 that this is the real deal and it's 1551 01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:08,319 about this phenomena he knows that a lot 1552 01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:09,920 of people are connect connecting to it 1553 01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:12,240 through ufo so he kind of put both in 1554 01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:13,760 what a lot of people are doing is 1555 01:06:17,910 --> 01:06:16,400 they're putting ufo slash uap right so 1556 01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:17,920 people get the connection that's cool 1557 01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:19,440 all right but there were some other 1558 01:06:23,589 --> 01:06:21,680 things that happened let me describe for 1559 01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:23,599 your listeners what to uh and viewers 1560 01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:26,880 what took place uh in that uh basically 1561 01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:29,039 four day period all right 1562 01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:30,720 uh 1563 01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:35,119 consider important all right look 1564 01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:37,599 about two days before the hearing 1565 01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:39,359 uh another member of congress who had 1566 01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:41,599 been speaking out a little bit 1567 01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:43,760 uh by the name of tim burchette 1568 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:46,720 he is a republican from tennessee 1569 01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:49,359 he is uh he is uh conservative 1570 01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:50,559 religious 1571 01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:52,799 uh and comes across as one of those good 1572 01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,920 old boys 1573 01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:55,920 but if you listen carefully you realize 1574 01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,480 this is a very very smart man 1575 01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,559 and he is one of a number of members of 1576 01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:02,240 congress that decided that uh i'm going 1577 01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:03,760 to speak to this i'm stepping out on 1578 01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:06,240 this right like gallego like obviously 1579 01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:10,160 gillibrand mark warner mark rubio um 1580 01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:13,680 carson mark walker uh and others 1581 01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:16,319 uh and he stepped out but he's a little 1582 01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:17,839 more aggressive 1583 01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:19,520 so he made a few comments and so he was 1584 01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:21,280 invited on a show 1585 01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:22,319 called uh 1586 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,230 i'm not sure the name 1587 01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:28,960 anyway it's it's it's on news nation uh 1588 01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:32,000 leland villard is the is the host right 1589 01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,680 and uh it's a talk show like any other 1590 01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:38,160 it's a it's it's a very conservative uh 1591 01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:40,160 uh platform and so they're really 1592 01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:42,160 excited and he's up on the wall right 1593 01:07:46,069 --> 01:07:44,000 doing the old zoom screen and what have 1594 01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,079 you and uh and and bill gets really 1595 01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:48,240 excited and he looks at tim and he says 1596 01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:49,920 look he says look there's only three 1597 01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:53,280 possibilities here uh either it's uh us 1598 01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:54,960 technology advanced technology is being 1599 01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,039 tested and is being seen right but it's 1600 01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:58,880 classified so they can't acknowledge it 1601 01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:01,520 or it's the advanced technology from 1602 01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:04,559 russia or china that's uh out there 1603 01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:05,920 doing things it probably shouldn't be 1604 01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:08,240 doing and uh and and they can't talk 1605 01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:10,799 about that or it's technology from off 1606 01:08:14,549 --> 01:08:13,520 this planet right that we're seeing 1607 01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:14,559 right 1608 01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:18,960 and instantly burst says number three 1609 01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:21,759 now let's be clear what he did in that 1610 01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:23,199 moment would say yes it's 1611 01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,880 extraterrestrial 1612 01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:27,120 absolutely that's exactly what he was 1613 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,640 saying 1614 01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:30,880 which means that tim burchett in that 1615 01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,199 moment on that show was the first member 1616 01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:35,520 of congress sitting member of congress i 1617 01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,759 can't speak to the retired ones uh but 1618 01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:39,120 the sitting member of congress while 1619 01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,480 sitting 1620 01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:42,159 said matter of factly that there's an 1621 01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:44,159 extraterrestrial presence 1622 01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:46,239 that was pretty big deal right and then 1623 01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:48,239 he backed it up he started talking about 1624 01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,759 cover-up and then he got into the fact 1625 01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:51,199 that religion can deal with it and all 1626 01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:53,199 of this he just really went on for about 1627 01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:54,960 12 minutes and i'm going wow that's 1628 01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:57,120 impressive thank you tim and i sent him 1629 01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:58,640 a nice tweet you know thanking him for 1630 01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:01,040 that so that happened two days before 1631 01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:03,520 okay so now couple days go by and it's 1632 01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,080 hearing time 1633 01:09:09,189 --> 01:09:08,239 uh leading up to and leading up to the 1634 01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:09,199 hearing 1635 01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,440 uh carson made tweets 1636 01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,359 gave some interviews kind of promoting 1637 01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:15,520 it but somebody else 1638 01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:17,839 gave uh some quotes prior to the just 1639 01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,480 prior to the uh the hearing and that was 1640 01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:22,239 a very important person by the name of 1641 01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:24,880 adam schiff adam schiff is the chairman 1642 01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:27,839 of the house intel committee of which uh 1643 01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:29,359 carson's committee 1644 01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:30,159 on 1645 01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:32,480 counter terrorism counterintelligence 1646 01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:34,319 counter proliferation total national 1647 01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:38,000 security is a a chair a subcommittee 1648 01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:40,319 but adam schiff is the head of the intel 1649 01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,520 committee he is a major figure in our in 1650 01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:45,600 our congress trust me 1651 01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:48,080 uh he comes out and supports what carson 1652 01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,319 is doing he's saying yes good thing 1653 01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,560 we're going to do this interesting but 1654 01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,880 then he showed up at the hearing he's 1655 01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,400 sitting up there next to carson he 1656 01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:58,560 doesn't have to do that right carson 1657 01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,000 just held the hearing and so he's 1658 01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:01,600 introducing it and he's giving these 1659 01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,400 positive remarks and so forth and so 1660 01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:06,640 what is happening there instantly before 1661 01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:08,719 the thing even is hardly underway i 1662 01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,320 realize something very important has 1663 01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:12,800 just happened adam schiff is making it 1664 01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:15,199 absolutely clear to everybody else in 1665 01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,360 congress every other committee chair 1666 01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:19,679 that he is going to hold a hearing in 1667 01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,000 front of the intel committee it's only a 1668 01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:23,920 matter of time it's only a matter of 1669 01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,760 when he chooses to do it but it's going 1670 01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:27,600 to happen and so if you're a committee 1671 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,280 chair of anything national security 1672 01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:31,280 related either the house or the senate 1673 01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:32,719 and you're kind of thinking you want to 1674 01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:34,159 get into this game and you want to get 1675 01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,880 in as early as possible yeah do it 1676 01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:38,800 because i'm going to do it eventually 1677 01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:40,239 he's giving him a little space but he's 1678 01:10:44,229 --> 01:10:42,840 also putting him on notice that was very 1679 01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,239 significant well 1680 01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:46,800 he got a couple questions in too yes he 1681 01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:48,960 did he did he was that he was basically 1682 01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:51,440 part of it so i noticed that okay right 1683 01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:53,679 away that was pretty significant uh the 1684 01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:55,600 hearing gets underway 1685 01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:57,600 and it's it's it's pretty much exactly 1686 01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:58,960 what i expected 1687 01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:02,239 uh it was basic bring two key people 1688 01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:04,640 from the uh pentagon who are overseeing 1689 01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:07,040 overseeing this this uh operation which 1690 01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:08,560 didn't yet have a director but i 1691 01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:09,840 understand that that has now been 1692 01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:12,400 announced i think his name is possibly 1693 01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,840 fitzpatrick forgive me i don't have it 1694 01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:16,080 handy but i did check the background of 1695 01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:18,320 this person he's got all the background 1696 01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:19,679 you'd expect 1697 01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:21,920 that but not necessarily any background 1698 01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:24,239 in this phenomena right whether he knows 1699 01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:25,679 anything about this phenomena or i 1700 01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:27,600 studied it himself i don't know but he's 1701 01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:29,760 got all the other background other 1702 01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:31,840 people can be brought in maybe even from 1703 01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:34,159 the civilian sector we'll see about that 1704 01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:35,199 but 1705 01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:37,040 so these are the people you'd bring up 1706 01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:38,640 and ask some questions how is it going 1707 01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,120 are you how are you responding to what 1708 01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:43,760 gillibrand and and rubio requested and 1709 01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:46,560 setting this up and what have you uh and 1710 01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:49,440 that was fine so so far so good 1711 01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:52,400 and uh so then as the hearing went 1712 01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:55,520 forward i i quickly realized i noticed 1713 01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:57,199 that there was not going to be any 1714 01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,640 laughing there was not going to be any 1715 01:12:01,990 --> 01:11:59,840 eye rolling there was not going to be 1716 01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:02,000 any smirking 1717 01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:03,199 this was serious and they were going to 1718 01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,960 keep it serious and of course the two 1719 01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:08,640 people testifying were serious that was 1720 01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:11,360 good all right what did you uh before we 1721 01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:14,320 uh uh let's stay at the front though um 1722 01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:15,679 real quick 1723 01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,640 um what did you think of andre carson's 1724 01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:21,120 opening statements excellent excellent 1725 01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:24,000 he is totally on board carson 1726 01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:26,239 he let me tell you something what you're 1727 01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,080 literally seeing right now 1728 01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:30,400 between rubio and gillibrand and carson 1729 01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:32,320 and even tim burchette who is probably 1730 01:12:35,189 --> 01:12:33,840 never going to sit on a 1731 01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:35,199 committee on this issue because he's not 1732 01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:36,960 in the right committees 1733 01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:39,520 you are seeing 1734 01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:41,840 members of the congress 1735 01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:44,159 who have fully accepted 1736 01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,320 intellectually this issue is going to 1737 01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:48,800 get resolved and they are starting to 1738 01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:51,600 try to compete with who can get 1739 01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:54,320 press who can get out in front of it who 1740 01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:55,920 can make some statements who can do 1741 01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:58,480 something because they understand 1742 01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:00,640 this is going to be maybe the most 1743 01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,280 profound political event ever 1744 01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,600 right there have been hearings i've 1745 01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:07,679 watched many of them the iran contra 1746 01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:10,880 hearings the vietnam hearings the the uh 1747 01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:14,080 hearings about iraq and on and on right 1748 01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:15,840 in the watergate hearings 1749 01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:18,239 the hearings on this issue bigger than 1750 01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:20,080 all of them put together 1751 01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:22,480 so they're literally starting to compete 1752 01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:23,360 with 1753 01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:26,800 being ahead of the issue being involved 1754 01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:29,120 and when politicians start doing that my 1755 01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,120 friend it's game over 1756 01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,120 all right we have been waiting all this 1757 01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:35,520 time for that it was pretty i don't do 1758 01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:37,520 politics on this show and i don't want 1759 01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:38,480 to get the 1760 01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:40,239 the chat room and the comments going in 1761 01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:41,520 that direction 1762 01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:43,760 but i i will say this i'll talk about 1763 01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:46,719 the conspiracy of politics um 1764 01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,840 there isn't any red or blue uh involved 1765 01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:51,199 here this is 1766 01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,560 definitely 1767 01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:54,960 i mean bipartisan isn't even 1768 01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:57,520 uh isn't even a way to put it this is a 1769 01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,239 humanitarian issue and that's the way 1770 01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:02,239 i'm serious there was 1771 01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:04,080 nothing going on 1772 01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:06,239 uh in that regard throughout the entire 1773 01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,520 hearing and i think it's going to 1774 01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:09,280 continue this way what do you think 1775 01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:12,640 absolutely there was only one very part 1776 01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:15,280 they're short partisan um 1777 01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:16,880 comment that came from the ranking 1778 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:19,440 member uh right after carson opened up 1779 01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:20,560 but other than that absolutely 1780 01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:21,840 nonpartisan 1781 01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:24,480 and let me let me follow up on that uh 1782 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,159 of the on the number of statements that 1783 01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,800 carson made before the hearing this is 1784 01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,880 one this was reported in the independent 1785 01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:32,719 i didn't see it anywhere else but it 1786 01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:35,360 probably was carson said 1787 01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:37,520 i've gotten some chuckles 1788 01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:38,800 meaning referring to the fact that he's 1789 01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:40,320 doing this i got i have gotten some 1790 01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:42,080 chuckles but it's something i'm 1791 01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:44,000 passionate about and i think i can take 1792 01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:45,840 the heat 1793 01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:48,719 this may be the very thing that brings 1794 01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:51,679 democrats and republicans together at 1795 01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:55,040 least for an hour or two 1796 01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:56,880 now let me be clear 1797 01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:57,920 that 1798 01:15:01,270 --> 01:15:00,320 those two sentences are 1799 01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:01,280 way 1800 01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:02,800 more important than most people might 1801 01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,320 think 1802 01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,480 very significant 1803 01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:08,480 he is not the only one that knows this 1804 01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,159 and i've been talking about that i don't 1805 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:12,080 know two years five years eight years 1806 01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:13,679 whatever all right 1807 01:15:16,709 --> 01:15:14,880 that 1808 01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:16,719 the the world 1809 01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:18,880 is headed to hell in a handbasket all 1810 01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:19,679 right 1811 01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:21,280 we've been marching toward nuclear wars 1812 01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,960 it's always boring yeah we're doing our 1813 01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:24,800 best aren't we 1814 01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,320 we've got plenty of other problems that 1815 01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:27,760 could be better addressed if we weren't 1816 01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:29,520 spending trillions upon trillions of 1817 01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:32,000 dollars on defensive and offensive uh 1818 01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:34,480 military intelligence operations 1819 01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:36,640 uh and now particularly the united 1820 01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:38,159 states so we're not the only country 1821 01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,440 suffering from this 1822 01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:42,480 we have slid not surprisingly into a 1823 01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:45,360 multi-year hyper-partisan gridlock that 1824 01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:48,640 has brought everything uh to a halt thus 1825 01:15:53,990 --> 01:15:50,840 allowing just about every conceivable 1826 01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:54,000 social uh economic problem to literally 1827 01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,320 fester to the point of being lethal i 1828 01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:58,800 mean it's a freaking mess and and and 1829 01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:00,800 and and nobody really seems to have a 1830 01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:02,880 slightest idea how to end it 1831 01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:04,320 and and there are people in the hill 1832 01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:05,679 that are so frustrated they're just 1833 01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:09,440 retiring they're walking away right and 1834 01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:11,840 i have said countless times 1835 01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:13,920 the only way out of this mess 1836 01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:17,360 not only the the nuclear uh 1837 01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:19,120 risk factor 1838 01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:22,239 but the hyper partisan and also some of 1839 01:16:26,709 --> 01:16:24,080 the other geopolitical issues that have 1840 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,719 got us literally locked down we need a 1841 01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:28,640 game-changing paradigm shift and the 1842 01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:30,480 only card in the deck right now that 1843 01:16:34,229 --> 01:16:32,640 delivers that is disclosure and so 1844 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:34,239 disclosure isn't just about finally 1845 01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:36,080 saying oh yeah the et's are here 1846 01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:38,880 disclosure may be the solution to our 1847 01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,719 fundamental problems it may open the 1848 01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,880 doors to the solutions that we simply 1849 01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:44,159 can't get to 1850 01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:45,679 i believe that with respect to 1851 01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:48,320 disclosure in respect to our situation 1852 01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,080 everything is at stake 1853 01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:51,840 to getting this done and it should have 1854 01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:54,239 been done years ago if we had disclosure 1855 01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:55,840 during the clinton administration or 1856 01:16:59,510 --> 01:16:57,120 maybe even early in the bush 1857 01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:59,520 administration we would not be facing 1858 01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:02,080 down the calamities or handling the 1859 01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:04,800 world issues that are coming up so badly 1860 01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:07,440 uh that is causing more catastrophes uh 1861 01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,960 uh it would it would have been a 1862 01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,880 different ballgame but it is what it is 1863 01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:12,560 all right so 1864 01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:13,840 and then but there's something else 1865 01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:17,040 about this that's really important okay 1866 01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:18,880 one of the aside from the risk of 1867 01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:21,120 nuclear war and the resurging pandemic 1868 01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,760 and and uh got it and the political 1869 01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:25,440 things that keep 1870 01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,120 literally happening and you just put 1871 01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:30,000 your face palm double face palm we 1872 01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:31,840 haven't we have we're entering into what 1873 01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:33,600 will be probably one of the most vicious 1874 01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:36,080 political election seasons of all time 1875 01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:37,920 and there's been some very strong 1876 01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:41,440 competition for that uh that mantle uh 1877 01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:43,760 and nobody is looking forward to this i 1878 01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:45,760 think a lot of people don't understand 1879 01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:47,679 that uh while there's some pretty bad 1880 01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,800 actors in in politics on both sides that 1881 01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:52,560 there's plenty of good people and 1882 01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:54,159 running for office in the country in 1883 01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:56,640 this country now is a nightmare it is 1884 01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:59,199 awful it is terrible 1885 01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,600 you have to first raise huge sums of 1886 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:03,440 money prostitute the hell out of 1887 01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,400 yourself beg borrow and steal to get 500 1888 01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:08,880 800 a million a million five two five 1889 01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:11,440 eight million dollars in order to quote 1890 01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,360 win an election and be able to serve and 1891 01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:16,080 get a salary of 160 or something all 1892 01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,640 right that's bad enough but then you've 1893 01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:20,880 got to you've got to run this hyper 1894 01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:23,679 partisan gamut where anything that could 1895 01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:25,360 be done to destroy you was probably 1896 01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:27,280 going to be done in order to get another 1897 01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:30,640 two years in office this is hell 1898 01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,800 to give you an example and i couldn't 1899 01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,719 believe this when i heard it please 1900 01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:36,719 check it if you're not sure 1901 01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:39,360 but in a race i in a primary race i 1902 01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:41,040 think it was wisconsin or michigan i'm 1903 01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:42,400 not sure 1904 01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:46,159 a a candidate to just win in this case 1905 01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:49,360 the democratic nomination all right 1906 01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:52,840 spent in excess of 11 1907 01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:55,120 million dollars 1908 01:19:02,149 --> 01:18:58,880 to try to win the nomination that would 1909 01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:02,159 allow him to then be in the election 1910 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:05,120 to be it was either senate or or 1911 01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:06,480 or a governor 1912 01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:08,480 he lost 1913 01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:11,040 11 million dollars lost 1914 01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:13,199 well it happens it happens in every 1915 01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:15,679 election and every election cycle 1916 01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,159 um certainly something needs to be done 1917 01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,159 about it again i don't discuss politics 1918 01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:22,719 on the show but i'll say this 1919 01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,760 um 1920 01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:25,520 term limits 1921 01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:26,560 that's it 1922 01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:27,760 uh 1923 01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:30,400 and and the same coffers on both sides 1924 01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:32,239 you get to spend x amount of money and 1925 01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:34,320 that's it that's the end of the story 1926 01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:36,719 may the best person win and and i'm not 1927 01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:38,640 trying to make that the point i'm simply 1928 01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:40,719 saying i'm talking about what the the 1929 01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:42,400 the people that do have to go through 1930 01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:44,000 these elections as hell 1931 01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:45,120 and so 1932 01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:46,159 uh 1933 01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:48,080 when i thought about that i'm going so 1934 01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,440 if you're going to have to go through 1935 01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:50,960 that if you're going to have to go 1936 01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:54,000 through the hyper heart partisan garment 1937 01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:56,159 heading into the election 1938 01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,960 what if these hearings were taking place 1939 01:20:01,669 --> 01:20:00,000 what if 1940 01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,679 in addition to people having to watch 1941 01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:03,679 the endless ads and the end get all the 1942 01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:05,920 endless emails asking them for money 1943 01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:07,199 suddenly there's these hearings going on 1944 01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:08,719 about this amazing issue it's very 1945 01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:10,480 interesting very par 1946 01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:12,480 positive and non-partisan and they're 1947 01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:15,600 seeing members of both parties 1948 01:20:19,510 --> 01:20:17,199 taking testimony from witnesses and 1949 01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:19,520 asking intelligent questions right uh 1950 01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:22,400 and being nonpartisan that is not a bad 1951 01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:25,600 thing that's kind of a a respite 1952 01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,280 from from the the war right and so 1953 01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:31,360 maybe having those hearings could 1954 01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:33,760 actually be very helpful 1955 01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:37,040 agreed i totally agree totally agreed um 1956 01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:40,719 uh i mean that's the one point right if 1957 01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:43,120 if something's gonna unite not only this 1958 01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:45,440 country but the rest of the planet 1959 01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:47,679 it's it's the e.t question getting 1960 01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:50,560 resolved and moving into disclosure yes 1961 01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,000 a lot of things would a lot just 1962 01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:56,400 a lot of negative energy that is being 1963 01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:57,679 spent for 1964 01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:00,400 for the wrong reasons would just clearly 1965 01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:01,600 go away 1966 01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,159 um but let me ask you this uh before we 1967 01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:05,600 head to the break 1968 01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:07,920 um i know that there was a moment i 1969 01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:10,800 wasn't there but if i was there 1970 01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:14,320 i would have seen the moment that uh you 1971 01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:15,920 stephen bassett 1972 01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:18,960 stood up and went there there right 1973 01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,800 what was the moment 1974 01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:22,960 when he jumped up 1975 01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,400 i'm not the only one that jumped up at 1976 01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:25,920 this moment 1977 01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:27,760 i know somebody just you know a few 1978 01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:29,760 miles north of me that did 1979 01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:31,440 it was when mike gallagher and he's 1980 01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:33,440 doing basic questioning 1981 01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:36,080 out of nowhere he suddenly goes to bray 1982 01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,199 and he says 1983 01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:39,520 you know there were reports of a large 1984 01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,920 glowing orb coming down and hovering 1985 01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:44,159 over one of our nuclear facilities at 1986 01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:45,840 mount strum right 1987 01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,239 and the missiles got shut down 1988 01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:49,920 are you aware of that 1989 01:21:55,750 --> 01:21:53,679 right and i and i'm going man bob salas 1990 01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:55,760 just fell out of his chair right this 1991 01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:59,120 came out of nowhere and and i assure you 1992 01:22:02,149 --> 01:21:59,920 this 1993 01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:02,159 i seriously do not think mike gallagher 1994 01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:03,280 is a pretty good guy he's also a 1995 01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:06,320 republican but a vet marine vet uh he 1996 01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:10,080 didn't he didn't go rogue here i believe 1997 01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,920 that very likely 1998 01:22:16,229 --> 01:22:13,679 he let the committee know he was going 1999 01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:16,239 to do this yeah he didn't go rogue he no 2000 01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:18,080 that was that was that was no he didn't 2001 01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,239 go rogue i don't think well not only 2002 01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:22,320 that you ever have a 2003 01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:24,320 like a mosquito flying around and you 2004 01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:25,600 got to do the thing i'm going to do it 2005 01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,320 live on camera the next time he sweeps 2006 01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:30,880 by so if you guys see me go wap 2007 01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:32,000 um 2008 01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:34,159 but he didn't waste any time though did 2009 01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:36,159 he because right after that 2010 01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:38,880 he goes wilson davis yeah you know this 2011 01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,360 is he he pops two things into play he's 2012 01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:43,679 the only one that really did that 2013 01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:44,880 why 2014 01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:47,600 uh well for one thing 2015 01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:48,480 it 2016 01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:53,840 similar to what uh uh 2017 01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:56,880 adam schiff was doing folks this is not 2018 01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:59,600 the only hearing all right and we we we 2019 01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:00,639 have 2020 01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:03,280 and the these men are not sure uh men i 2021 01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:05,040 think there was no woman there 2022 01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:07,360 and they're not showing up like you know 2023 01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:09,840 uh okay what is this about oh it's about 2024 01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:12,159 ufos you aps okay 2025 01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:14,960 let's let's wha what are we at no 2026 01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:16,880 there's been briefings going on the hill 2027 01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:18,960 for years right particularly going back 2028 01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:21,840 to 2018 thank you christopher mellon 2029 01:23:25,189 --> 01:23:23,600 there's a lot that they know they've 2030 01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:25,199 gotten classified briefings so they're 2031 01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:27,280 coming into this right 2032 01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:30,719 knowing more than you might know and so 2033 01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:32,880 this is plan now what's what's hap 2034 01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:34,320 another way of describing what's 2035 01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:35,280 happening 2036 01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:38,800 is that this is an orchestrated process 2037 01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:40,400 going on between the department of 2038 01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:43,360 defense primarily uh and the congress of 2039 01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:45,840 the united states but by orchestrated i 2040 01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:47,600 don't mean they're passing emails back 2041 01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:48,880 and forth and kind of planning 2042 01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:52,080 everything i mean that both sides know 2043 01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:54,560 what the other side needs and they're 2044 01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:56,960 providing it to each other so that it 2045 01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:00,000 can go forward in an orderly process 2046 01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:03,040 right and so his what he did there is 2047 01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:05,360 let people know you know we know about 2048 01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,239 some things like we know about the 2049 01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:10,719 nuclear weapons tampering which by the 2050 01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:14,159 way happens to be the single most 2051 01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:17,040 important action the ets have ever taken 2052 01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:18,960 that has the most significant national 2053 01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:21,440 security aspect and national security is 2054 01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,719 the platform in which these areas going 2055 01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:23,920 to be held 2056 01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:25,760 okay so let me let me stop you right 2057 01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,320 there um because 2058 01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:30,400 we have two 2059 01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:32,080 two people from the department of 2060 01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:33,120 defense 2061 01:24:37,830 --> 01:24:35,120 called us the first witnesses that's 2062 01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:37,840 right both both directing the 2063 01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:40,480 investigations the two of them well 2064 01:24:43,990 --> 01:24:42,639 they're they're over they're overseeing 2065 01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:44,000 the investigations that are going to 2066 01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,040 happen yeah 2067 01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,520 they're directing they're overseeing 2068 01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,840 and both of them claim they've never 2069 01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,440 heard of malmstrom 2070 01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:53,040 now 2071 01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:54,880 either we got the two 2072 01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:56,239 wrong people 2073 01:25:01,750 --> 01:24:58,960 right in these positions or 2074 01:25:02,550 --> 01:25:01,760 clearly uh they know they have to know 2075 01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:02,560 and 2076 01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:06,159 it at that moment which 2077 01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:08,400 which which way what side of the fence 2078 01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:10,560 are you on well let me talk about this 2079 01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:11,760 how much time have we got jimmy am i 2080 01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,320 okay here we got we've got eight minutes 2081 01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:16,800 oh god no problem 2082 01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:19,440 not with you that's a big problem yeah 2083 01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:22,480 when that when they set up this att 2084 01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:24,000 i mean aim song 2085 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:25,360 the worst name ever and the worst 2086 01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,280 acronym ever uh produced by the 2087 01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:29,360 department of defense uh and and 2088 01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:31,760 everybody knows this and and and the the 2089 01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:34,480 twitter is is pointed it out which which 2090 01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:35,679 is why they're going to change it and 2091 01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:36,719 they go out of their way to tell you 2092 01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:38,239 that it's going to be another name 2093 01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:39,760 meaning oh my god we've got to get away 2094 01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:41,520 from this uh 2095 01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,679 you know they needed people 2096 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,520 long-serving people at high level in the 2097 01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:47,040 pentagon and these people these guys 2098 01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:49,040 bray and moultrie are high level to 2099 01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:49,840 quote 2100 01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,320 manage it it's not like oh well let's go 2101 01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:54,400 to the unacknowledged special access 2102 01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:55,840 programs and see who down there really 2103 01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:57,280 knows the subject and bring them up and 2104 01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:00,560 put no right and so it's not it's not 2105 01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,120 likely that they know much at all 2106 01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,800 and and the director that's going to be 2107 01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:06,480 put in charge may not be that 2108 01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:08,480 knowledgeable right now 2109 01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:09,920 that doesn't mean they're not going to 2110 01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,639 find some people to be involved in this 2111 01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:14,719 group right 2112 01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:17,199 that will advise them that actually do 2113 01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:19,679 know something about the issue and work 2114 01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:23,120 within the pentagon okay in fact i 2115 01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:25,199 actually have some information about one 2116 01:26:29,189 --> 01:26:27,040 person who does know a lot about the 2117 01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,199 issue and has is in the program but 2118 01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:31,120 remember this is all still just coming 2119 01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:34,560 together all right this is that you know 2120 01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:36,159 they they they announced the program in 2121 01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:37,679 november and that's another story i'll 2122 01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:39,280 get back to that later so it's just 2123 01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:41,199 coming together right 2124 01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:44,320 again it's a it's an it's a process it 2125 01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:46,480 is a public relations process in other 2126 01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:47,840 words people say well why haven't you 2127 01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:49,600 got this why haven't you got that it's 2128 01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:52,560 not about discovery it's about going to 2129 01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:54,000 a process to 2130 01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:55,600 distance themselves from the truth 2131 01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,080 embargo it is public relations right 2132 01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:00,560 because they don't really want to invest 2133 01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:03,040 a whole bunch of money and time in and 2134 01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:04,880 actually going out and studying the 2135 01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:06,480 phenomena their government's already 2136 01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,960 been studying for 70 years so it's going 2137 01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:10,800 to seem a little incongruous that's what 2138 01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:12,639 i was trying to get to earlier 2139 01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:15,760 sure don't expect a brand new 2140 01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:18,080 mega blue book thing no they already 2141 01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:19,920 know and so they're they're doing the 2142 01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:22,159 process okay so these guys come up they 2143 01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:24,400 they i really don't think that they they 2144 01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:27,280 knew about mount stern but here is to 2145 01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:28,800 give you an idea of how 2146 01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:30,480 how the truth embargo is and what it 2147 01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:31,679 does to people 2148 01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:34,320 i'm gonna imagine you're scott bray and 2149 01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:36,080 he brings that up to him 2150 01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:37,920 scott and he and he's and he's on camera 2151 01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:39,199 this thing is being filmed is going to 2152 01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,679 live with scott forever okay 2153 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:43,679 here is the situation he's in 2154 01:27:48,070 --> 01:27:45,520 these are his options 2155 01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:48,080 if he really doesn't know he has to say 2156 01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:49,280 that 2157 01:27:52,790 --> 01:27:50,880 i don't know 2158 01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:52,800 and a whole lot of people are going to 2159 01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,719 laugh like hell and be very unhappy 2160 01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:56,719 about that and give him a lot of grief 2161 01:28:00,629 --> 01:27:58,960 he is and he's already getting grief and 2162 01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:00,639 that's not fun but there's nothing he 2163 01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:02,239 can do about it so he's got that he does 2164 01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:05,199 that okay but let's see he does know 2165 01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:07,120 what are his options then they're 2166 01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:08,719 terrible 2167 01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:10,800 if he actually knew something or heard 2168 01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:13,199 about moundstrom and when he's asked 2169 01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:15,600 that question he goes back to to uh 2170 01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:17,440 gallagher and says uh yes i'm aware of 2171 01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,239 it 2172 01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:20,800 instantly he's telling everybody out 2173 01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:23,199 there yeah we know about mountstrom i 2174 01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:24,960 know about mountstrom and then the 2175 01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:26,480 questions are 2176 01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,760 well what the hell have you done about 2177 01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:29,520 it the mount stream case has been out 2178 01:28:34,229 --> 01:28:32,400 there for 25 years you know about it 2179 01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:34,239 that should have been first and foremost 2180 01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:36,560 we and we have 800 questions right sure 2181 01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:37,920 and what did you make of the body 2182 01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:40,159 language between them two at that moment 2183 01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:42,159 i mean i'm not an idiot i'm not the 2184 01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,400 smartest guy in the room but i'm also 2185 01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,800 not an idiot and when i see one guy turn 2186 01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,480 to another one going you know what a 2187 01:28:52,470 --> 01:28:50,719 milestone no i don't know you know about 2188 01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:52,480 that says it all 2189 01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:54,960 they want to make sure that they did not 2190 01:28:58,870 --> 01:28:58,000 talk about malmstrom scott bray cannot 2191 01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:58,880 say 2192 01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:01,360 that he oh yes i know uh yes i do know 2193 01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:02,400 something about it what are there's 2194 01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:04,080 other options the other option which is 2195 01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:05,120 something you're going to be hearing a 2196 01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:06,560 lot of and you've heard many times in 2197 01:29:10,629 --> 01:29:07,600 the past 2198 01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:10,639 is that uh yeah yes uh that is an area 2199 01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:12,560 that i i could only address uh in 2200 01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:15,600 classified setting he can't do that if 2201 01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,120 he says that he's basically 2202 01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:19,280 acknowledging yeah this is an issue it's 2203 01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:21,840 so important it's classified all right 2204 01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:23,920 and then everybody watching is going oh 2205 01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:26,719 okay uh uh let's let's uh let's start 2206 01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:28,560 asking a lot of hard questions about 2207 01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,239 nuclear weapons tampering and of course 2208 01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:31,920 bob salas is sitting there going yeah 2209 01:29:37,270 --> 01:29:34,960 yeah yeah and so he can't do that either 2210 01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:37,280 uh so what does he have to do 2211 01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:38,800 he has to lie 2212 01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:41,199 he has to say i don't know about it when 2213 01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:44,320 i do know about it now again 2214 01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:46,239 we all know and louis elizondo has done 2215 01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:48,239 this i don't know 100 times that there 2216 01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,719 are things that you can respond in this 2217 01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:53,120 way i can't go there 2218 01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:55,120 but i mean i yes i understand your 2219 01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:57,199 question but i can't really address that 2220 01:30:01,910 --> 01:30:00,159 at this time right it's classified okay 2221 01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:01,920 right right but there are things that 2222 01:30:06,310 --> 01:30:04,960 you cannot even do that too all right 2223 01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:06,320 and that is the concept of 2224 01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:08,320 unacknowledged special access or 2225 01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:11,760 unacknowledged it means that uh yeah 2226 01:30:16,310 --> 01:30:13,760 this is something i'm steven steven 2227 01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:16,320 malmstrom wasn't any of that 2228 01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:18,800 that wasn't a special access program it 2229 01:30:22,470 --> 01:30:20,719 was 2230 01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:22,480 the concept of the special 2231 01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:24,800 unacknowledged special access program is 2232 01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:26,800 that yeah i know a lot about it i'm 2233 01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:28,480 involved in it i can't even acknowledge 2234 01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:30,719 it exist and so i'm going to lie right 2235 01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:33,120 to your face okay right right this the 2236 01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:35,760 mountain the the nuclear weapons 2237 01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:38,320 temporary thing is such a major problem 2238 01:30:42,629 --> 01:30:40,960 for the pentagon and the air force which 2239 01:30:44,629 --> 01:30:42,639 is why they've tried to pretend that all 2240 01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:44,639 of these witnesses don't exist 2241 01:30:49,990 --> 01:30:46,719 they have utterly refused to address 2242 01:30:50,950 --> 01:30:50,000 this issue right uh for all of these 2243 01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,960 years 2244 01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:52,320 that these witnesses have been coming 2245 01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:54,800 forward i can tell you story upon story 2246 01:30:58,070 --> 01:30:56,320 in other words this is something they 2247 01:30:59,590 --> 01:30:58,080 simply can't deal with i mean they can't 2248 01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:59,600 round up these witnesses and put them in 2249 01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:01,440 a gulag somewhere and 2250 01:31:05,990 --> 01:31:03,760 in alaska they just you know this is 2251 01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:06,000 america you don't do that 2252 01:31:11,030 --> 01:31:09,440 they might they might hey stephen 2253 01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:11,040 we got to take we got to take a break 2254 01:31:14,470 --> 01:31:13,199 let's get this in right here i'll let 2255 01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:14,480 you finish 2256 01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:17,040 i see that when you said how much time 2257 01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:19,120 i was like no it doesn't work that way 2258 01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:20,880 around here with stephen bassett we'll 2259 01:31:26,950 --> 01:31:23,520 be right back after this short break 2260 01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:26,960 it is night one of ufo hearing week here 2261 01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:28,320 on fade to black our guest tonight 2262 01:31:35,340 --> 01:31:30,719 stephen bassett i am your host jimmy 2263 01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:49,669 [Music] 2264 01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:52,800 way out here we listen to jimmy church 2265 01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,010 you're listening to fade to black 2266 01:31:59,750 --> 01:31:57,600 [Applause] 2267 01:32:01,270 --> 01:31:59,760 you're listening to jimmy church and 2268 01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:01,280 fade to black 2269 01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:21,910 this is jimmy churchill to black and 2270 01:32:28,790 --> 01:32:26,080 this year june 18th 2022 2271 01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:28,800 the disclosure fest foundation presents 2272 01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:31,360 the mass meditation initiative it's 2273 01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:34,960 saturday june 18th from 10 a.m to 10 p.m 2274 01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:37,600 one day only at the los angeles state 2275 01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:40,000 historic park in downtown los angeles 2276 01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:43,199 california right next to chinatown i'm 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01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:22,719 jimmy church on the game changing 2336 01:35:31,030 --> 01:35:28,070 hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to 2337 01:35:33,830 --> 01:35:31,040 jimmy church this is revolution the 2338 01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:33,840 revolution will not be televised the 2339 01:35:40,170 --> 01:35:37,119 revolution is on radio 2340 01:35:49,290 --> 01:35:47,490 [Music] 2341 01:36:12,050 --> 01:35:49,300 [Applause] 2342 01:36:12,810 --> 01:36:12,060 [Music] 2343 01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:12,820 [Applause] 2344 01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:19,679 [Music] 2345 01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:21,440 welcome back fade to black i am your 2346 01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:23,520 host jimmy church tonight 2347 01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,639 night one of ufo hearing week all week 2348 01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,560 here on fade to black our guest tonight 2349 01:36:32,070 --> 01:36:30,719 is steve ambassador prg 2350 01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:32,080 and uh 2351 01:36:37,109 --> 01:36:34,560 there was only one person 2352 01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:37,119 to start this week and that was steve 2353 01:36:42,550 --> 01:36:38,400 ambassador there's no question about 2354 01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:42,560 that and uh now stephen here's the deal 2355 01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:45,600 uh i just sent you a text on your phone 2356 01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:48,080 okay uh i've got it turned off should i 2357 01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:50,560 should i uh turn it on just look at the 2358 01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:53,840 picture i just want to share a private 2359 01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:55,600 moment with you 2360 01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:58,320 okay uh there you go this isn't a nude 2361 01:37:01,510 --> 01:36:59,760 pic is it this is not a new pick you 2362 01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:01,520 wouldn't do that to me no 2363 01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,440 okay good good talk about it though 2364 01:37:08,149 --> 01:37:06,000 steven with you but all right hang on 2365 01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:08,159 and uh so there you go 2366 01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:11,440 this is a text you say yes it it's a new 2367 01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:13,840 thing it's called texting people do it 2368 01:37:17,510 --> 01:37:15,600 oh there it is that's looking good all 2369 01:37:20,229 --> 01:37:17,520 right hang on a second see there it is 2370 01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:20,239 okay okay it's just the little thing 2371 01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:24,000 stephen okay oh wait a minute man that 2372 01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:26,639 is oh i have to have one of these dude i 2373 01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:29,199 know i know i have to have oh nobody's 2374 01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:30,480 going to be able to see this if i do 2375 01:37:34,470 --> 01:37:32,560 this no you know what you shouldn't show 2376 01:37:37,510 --> 01:37:34,480 it to anybody that's private 2377 01:37:40,870 --> 01:37:37,520 okay now um let's let's get back to the 2378 01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:40,880 hearing um yeah what'd you make of the 2379 01:37:46,830 --> 01:37:44,080 moment from representative welch 2380 01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:46,840 um when he brought up e.t and 2381 01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:49,040 extraterrestrials um where 2382 01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,199 um i felt that i don't want this to be a 2383 01:37:54,070 --> 01:37:53,040 long question but the first half of the 2384 01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:54,080 hearing 2385 01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:56,639 i think that both bray and moultrie were 2386 01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:58,639 trying to make this 2387 01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:01,520 a technology issue possibly with 2388 01:38:05,189 --> 01:38:03,840 adversaries the second half of the 2389 01:38:09,510 --> 01:38:05,199 hearing 2390 01:38:11,590 --> 01:38:09,520 took a turn and and representative welch 2391 01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:11,600 wanted to get things back on track which 2392 01:38:14,709 --> 01:38:13,600 was this was a hearing about ufos and 2393 01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:14,719 e.t 2394 01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,960 what what did you think of that moment 2395 01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:18,000 uh 2396 01:38:23,350 --> 01:38:20,400 we'll get to his second question 2397 01:38:25,590 --> 01:38:23,360 but his first was bringing up e.t and 2398 01:38:26,709 --> 01:38:25,600 extraterrestrials uh what'd you make of 2399 01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:26,719 that 2400 01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:27,679 again 2401 01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:29,840 imagine that these these gentlemen are 2402 01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:31,840 sitting up there and they know 2403 01:38:36,629 --> 01:38:33,840 a lot more than you think 2404 01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:36,639 and they know how important this is 2405 01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:38,880 and they they know that this is just the 2406 01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:40,960 beginning and you can imagine that 2407 01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,960 they're just this urge you know 2408 01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:44,960 but you know but you know i should ask 2409 01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:48,320 about this right but 2410 01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,400 this process requires not getting out 2411 01:38:53,750 --> 01:38:52,000 ahead of your skis 2412 01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:53,760 just kind of stay within the lane 2413 01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:55,760 because for this to work you've got to 2414 01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:57,520 sort of 2415 01:39:01,910 --> 01:38:59,119 take it in a way that is going to keep 2416 01:39:04,149 --> 01:39:01,920 it relatively orderly and allow for the 2417 01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:04,159 next step to take place it's tough i 2418 01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:05,440 mean there's any number of things that 2419 01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:06,400 could have brought up which would have 2420 01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:07,840 not been helpful 2421 01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:09,119 but 2422 01:39:11,830 --> 01:39:10,560 you give him credit he says 2423 01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:11,840 extraterrestrial first of all he said 2424 01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:13,920 extraterrestrial not alien thank you 2425 01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:16,960 uh but again that is another way just 2426 01:39:22,550 --> 01:39:19,600 like what uh gallagher did to let people 2427 01:39:24,070 --> 01:39:22,560 know folks this is the real deal okay 2428 01:39:26,390 --> 01:39:24,080 we're not just going through the motions 2429 01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:26,400 here there was a time i would a member 2430 01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:27,679 of congress would never let the word 2431 01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:29,679 extraterrestrial come out of their mouth 2432 01:39:33,109 --> 01:39:31,760 so i saw that is what was going on there 2433 01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:33,119 but let me get back to something i was 2434 01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:34,639 trying to say before it's very important 2435 01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,400 the point i was trying to make about 2436 01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:38,320 bray in that moment right and we need to 2437 01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:40,719 talk about about wilson davis 2438 01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:41,600 is that 2439 01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:43,199 now the game is afoot 2440 01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:45,280 you've got members of congress involved 2441 01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:46,880 they're being interviewed they're going 2442 01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:48,880 to sometimes be in hearings you've got 2443 01:39:53,830 --> 01:39:51,440 obviously high level officials and 2444 01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:53,840 including april haynes and hicks and 2445 01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,280 everything else coming forward and 2446 01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:57,440 getting in involved in this as we go 2447 01:40:02,310 --> 01:40:00,000 forward and let me be clear 2448 01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:02,320 there are going to be many many many 2449 01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,639 times in the coming weeks and hopefully 2450 01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:06,960 not more than a couple of months 2451 01:40:10,629 --> 01:40:08,960 when these people 2452 01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:10,639 under questioning whether it's from a 2453 01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:13,199 reporter or in hearing or whatever else 2454 01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:14,960 are going to lie 2455 01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:16,880 it's just going to be that way because 2456 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:19,440 they simply cannot tell the truth in 2457 01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,800 that moment 2458 01:40:23,669 --> 01:40:22,400 and people say well wait a minute this 2459 01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:23,679 is a truth process that's isn't that 2460 01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:25,119 what what this is about getting 2461 01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:27,440 disclosure is a truth thing i get it i 2462 01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:34,390 what's going on here is a a process in 2463 01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:35,440 which 2464 01:40:41,109 --> 01:40:38,080 they can get from a truth embargo 2465 01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:41,119 that is still in effect now for 75 years 2466 01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:42,800 to the point where the president of the 2467 01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:46,000 united states can tell the world that 2468 01:40:49,830 --> 01:40:48,000 yes there is an extraterrestrial 2469 01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:49,840 presence and that means going through 2470 01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,920 hearings and bringing that together and 2471 01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,239 have it go forward and in order to do 2472 01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:56,639 that you've got to stay within the lane 2473 01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:58,239 and so as i said i think was picked up 2474 01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:00,400 by politico recently in an article that 2475 01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:02,000 some some stuff they wrote about me and 2476 01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:03,440 maybe elsewhere 2477 01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:06,400 one way to look at it is that 2478 01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:08,080 unfortunately maybe it's unfortunate or 2479 01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:09,920 maybe whatever 2480 01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:12,239 the the dod in the congress is going to 2481 01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:15,040 have to lie their way out from under a 2482 01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:18,080 much bigger lie all right in service of 2483 01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:19,760 the greater good 2484 01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:22,800 i am perfectly happy with that all right 2485 01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:24,480 if that's what it takes and it's going 2486 01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:26,880 to take that in order for them to to do 2487 01:41:30,629 --> 01:41:28,719 their roles and not get 2488 01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:30,639 out get into areas that are going to 2489 01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:32,719 create problems they're going to have to 2490 01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,199 do this and so it's very possible bray 2491 01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:37,520 lied in that moment all right but you're 2492 01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:40,560 going to see a lot more of that and and 2493 01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:41,920 because there's going to be situations 2494 01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:43,520 where they simply can't say 2495 01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:46,080 i'm under nda it's classified i can't go 2496 01:41:51,510 --> 01:41:48,800 there no because that is going to create 2497 01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:51,520 issues ahead of where they need to go 2498 01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:52,719 and so a lot of people are going to get 2499 01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:55,199 upset i'm saying don't get upset enjoy 2500 01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,400 the ride now the other thing that 2501 01:42:02,229 --> 01:42:00,480 gallagher did we need to talk about as 2502 01:42:05,270 --> 01:42:02,239 soon as that was over he immediately 2503 01:42:07,910 --> 01:42:05,280 introduces the wilson davis notes 2504 01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:07,920 now this is something else again all 2505 01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:08,719 right 2506 01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:11,520 why the wilson davis notes 2507 01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:15,760 well first of all that's that's not a an 2508 01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:18,960 et event or uap event right which is a 2509 01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:20,239 huge deal 2510 01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:23,280 this is an inside event in which people 2511 01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:24,639 who are operating deeply in the 2512 01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,400 classified world uh had a correspondence 2513 01:42:33,030 --> 01:42:30,480 or an engagement that ended up getting 2514 01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:33,040 out because it got eventually into the 2515 01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:34,719 files of edgar mitchell and it was 2516 01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,880 pulled out of there right because edgar 2517 01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:38,880 mitchell was involved in the initial 2518 01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,880 approach to wilson in the first place 2519 01:42:44,950 --> 01:42:42,480 and so it's a very controversial thing 2520 01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:44,960 the wilson davis nodes all right but 2521 01:42:48,870 --> 01:42:46,880 what a lot of people who don't know 2522 01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:48,880 about the wilson davis notes they see 2523 01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:51,040 that they go what does this mean here is 2524 01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:53,040 what they need to know 2525 01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:55,920 if what is in the wilson davis notes 2526 01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:58,239 could be confirmed 2527 01:43:01,669 --> 01:42:59,360 boom 2528 01:43:03,590 --> 01:43:01,679 right the hearings would have to start a 2529 01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:03,600 whole lot sooner and they would be 2530 01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:05,679 really intense because that is really 2531 01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:08,560 heavy duty stuff all of it all of it 2532 01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:11,920 okay but it's it's it can't be confirmed 2533 01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:14,159 the the the nuclear weapons tampering is 2534 01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:15,679 confirmed because you got all kinds of 2535 01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:18,080 witnesses and sack base offers that were 2536 01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:20,000 there when it happened and they've come 2537 01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,679 forward with affidavits i've got a bunch 2538 01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:23,520 of the affidavits sitting on my desk 2539 01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:25,840 right now but the wilson davis the only 2540 01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:27,199 people that were there was wilson and 2541 01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,719 davis and so can't be confirmed oh it is 2542 01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:32,320 right there's a lot of things we've 2543 01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:34,000 learned over 70 years that can't be 2544 01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:35,760 confirmed that will prove to be true all 2545 01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:36,480 right 2546 01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:37,440 but 2547 01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:39,119 wow what do you got here first of all 2548 01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:42,960 eric davis has been inside on so many 2549 01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:45,360 heavy duty things that that are 2550 01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:47,600 interesting and exotic and classified he 2551 01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,360 is a heavy hitter 2552 01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:51,280 and wilson if you look into his 2553 01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:52,400 background 2554 01:43:58,709 --> 01:43:55,440 he was involved in so many high level 2555 01:44:03,270 --> 01:43:58,719 positions i mean his resume is gold 2556 01:44:05,669 --> 01:44:03,280 right he's he's top top dog okay so 2557 01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:05,679 this is it's apparently according to the 2558 01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:09,440 notes they met in a car and davis uh had 2559 01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:12,080 a conversation with him which i believe 2560 01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,239 he transcribed later he wasn't sitting 2561 01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:16,000 there with a pet all right i'm pretty 2562 01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:17,360 sure about that and if i'm wrong 2563 01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,520 somebody will correct me all right and 2564 01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:20,960 those notes 2565 01:44:24,950 --> 01:44:22,719 really weren't supposed to lie today i 2566 01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:24,960 guess maybe it was just for for davis 2567 01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,040 purposes but they ended up finally 2568 01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:29,280 working their way ultimately came out 2569 01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:31,679 through uh edgar mitchell's uh uh files 2570 01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:33,760 after he died and then of course it 2571 01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:36,080 created quite a storm uh and and they've 2572 01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:38,560 given a lot of examination and a lot of 2573 01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:40,159 a lot of analysis 2574 01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:42,400 uh but it comes down to this for me it's 2575 01:44:47,350 --> 01:44:44,320 not not complicated 2576 01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:47,360 admiral wilson was asked about 2577 01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:49,920 this and he basically said the meeting 2578 01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:52,159 never happened what was in those notes 2579 01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:53,280 anything that 2580 01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:56,480 regarding me was false okay 2581 01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:58,719 uh which is a bit of a problem 2582 01:45:03,430 --> 01:45:01,600 because you see i was i was aware of i 2583 01:45:05,109 --> 01:45:03,440 mean i knew about that that stuff 2584 01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:05,119 happening back then i knew about 2585 01:45:09,189 --> 01:45:07,119 mitchell and greer approaching wilson i 2586 01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:09,199 knew it when it happened and so that was 2587 01:45:13,990 --> 01:45:11,520 out there and there's two eyewitnesses 2588 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:14,000 uh one is dead but one's still alive and 2589 01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:15,360 there may be a couple of other people 2590 01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:17,040 that are uh 2591 01:45:21,590 --> 01:45:19,760 tangential that can confirm 2592 01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:21,600 that wilson was approached to look into 2593 01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:24,320 some usaps to see what was going on and 2594 01:45:28,709 --> 01:45:26,239 he was told basically i don't you think 2595 01:45:31,510 --> 01:45:28,719 you have access go away you don't so 2596 01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:31,520 whatever else was in the notes that 2597 01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:34,400 i think is supportable support it okay 2598 01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:35,440 and so 2599 01:45:37,669 --> 01:45:36,239 but 2600 01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:37,679 also there's this 2601 01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:40,480 eric davis has been pretty adamant that 2602 01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:42,320 he's not going to talk about it he's 2603 01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:43,920 been asked repeatedly he's not going to 2604 01:45:48,629 --> 01:45:45,199 speak to it 2605 01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:48,639 interesting and so let's let's quickly 2606 01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:49,840 say this 2607 01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:52,960 if i am eric davis with my background 2608 01:45:56,830 --> 01:45:54,960 and all that i've been involved in and 2609 01:46:00,390 --> 01:45:56,840 somebody comes up and completely 2610 01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:00,400 falsifies a a bunch of notes that 2611 01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:02,560 totally not true not having anything to 2612 01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:05,520 do with davis and puts that out there 2613 01:46:09,189 --> 01:46:06,800 i wait about 2614 01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:09,199 five minutes before i go public and deny 2615 01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,440 it you do not let that sit all right 2616 01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:14,400 that's ridiculous and so uh and i think 2617 01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:15,760 of plenty of people on the hill know 2618 01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:17,440 that and i think gallagher knows that 2619 01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:19,360 and so he put those notes into play but 2620 01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,360 something else happened is he he asked 2621 01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:23,040 bray bray says i don't know about that 2622 01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:25,360 and then he immediately turns to carson 2623 01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:27,040 and says i want to put these uh these 2624 01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:28,960 notes copy these notes into the record 2625 01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:30,480 without objection carson says without 2626 01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:32,480 objection now what what did you make of 2627 01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:34,000 that moment i mean i was pretty 2628 01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:37,040 surprised i'm sure that richard dolan 2629 01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:38,880 fell out of his chair 2630 01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:40,960 um but what what what did you make of 2631 01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:44,320 that if going into the record 2632 01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:47,520 does that mean in the future if somebody 2633 01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:49,199 uh brings up 2634 01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:51,360 the davis document to wilson davis and 2635 01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:52,880 they say they don't 2636 01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:54,400 they're not aware of it 2637 01:46:59,109 --> 01:46:56,239 can you immediately reference while it's 2638 01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:59,119 part of the record sure and you it's 2639 01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:01,199 there for you to read is is that one of 2640 01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:03,679 the reasons for it sure it's a much 2641 01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:05,040 bigger deal than i think people 2642 01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:07,520 understand right when you hold a hearing 2643 01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:09,760 everything that's said in that hearing 2644 01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:11,600 by the by the members committee members 2645 01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:12,560 and by the 2646 01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:15,920 witnesses is is is on the record right i 2647 01:47:20,390 --> 01:47:18,400 think it actually gets transcribed uh 2648 01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:20,400 but anything in print or a document or 2649 01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:22,159 something else can be submitted in the 2650 01:47:28,390 --> 01:47:25,040 record right and so if he doesn't do 2651 01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:28,400 that that statement that he made about 2652 01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:29,360 the fact that there was this 2653 01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:31,360 controversial document and bray's 2654 01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:33,119 response i don't know i don't know about 2655 01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:35,199 it would have gone in the record but not 2656 01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:37,679 the wilson davis notes 2657 01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:39,600 he turns and puts them in the record so 2658 01:47:44,149 --> 01:47:41,840 now they are formally in the record 2659 01:47:46,149 --> 01:47:44,159 which sets them up very nicely for 2660 01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:46,159 hearing and it's all a couple a number 2661 01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:48,639 of people have tweeted uh appropriately 2662 01:47:52,629 --> 01:47:50,560 on ufo twitter which is where you want 2663 01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:52,639 to go if you really want to follow i 2664 01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:54,960 think the main main twitter thread on 2665 01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:56,960 this and it's growing like crazy 2666 01:48:01,350 --> 01:47:59,360 is that yeah eric davis is going to have 2667 01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,360 to come up on the hill and testify about 2668 01:48:05,830 --> 01:48:03,600 that all right and i you don't want to 2669 01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:05,840 know something i think eric davis would 2670 01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:08,159 be happy to do that one of the things 2671 01:48:11,510 --> 01:48:09,760 about the truth embargo that people need 2672 01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:11,520 to understand because of the nature of 2673 01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:13,119 the truth embargo 2674 01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:14,320 there are a 2675 01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:16,480 large large number of people both in 2676 01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:20,080 politics and in national security 2677 01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:22,320 that have a lot of things they could say 2678 01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,400 and on occasion they are bumped about it 2679 01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:26,080 mean you know i do you know something 2680 01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:27,679 about that or i heard you were involved 2681 01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:30,400 in that that are simply not going to 2682 01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:33,040 speak they do not need that grief they 2683 01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:35,679 do not need to be trolled on the 2684 01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:37,199 internet or whatever else you have to 2685 01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:39,679 put up with right because just saying it 2686 01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:41,520 to somebody or a researcher or even a 2687 01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:43,840 reporter what's going to come from that 2688 01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:44,960 nothing 2689 01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:47,360 right if they are asked to come to on 2690 01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:48,560 the hill 2691 01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:51,600 and testify as part of a formal process 2692 01:48:57,109 --> 01:48:54,480 to bring this information out under oath 2693 01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:57,119 in an orderly process they are going to 2694 01:49:01,430 --> 01:48:59,760 do it and i think that if i'm eric davis 2695 01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:01,440 my attitude is look i'm not i'm not 2696 01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:03,440 going to talk about this but if you you 2697 01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:04,800 bring if you ask me to come to the hill 2698 01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:06,880 and testify under oath fine i'll come up 2699 01:49:10,070 --> 01:49:08,239 and tell you about those notes and 2700 01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:10,080 probably a lot of other things and so 2701 01:49:15,109 --> 01:49:12,400 that's what i took away from that very 2702 01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,119 significant uh and uh pointing down the 2703 01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:17,119 line um 2704 01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:21,030 is 2705 01:49:26,310 --> 01:49:24,400 the second half of representative welch 2706 01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:26,320 was probably 2707 01:49:30,229 --> 01:49:28,480 just as crazy as the first half the 2708 01:49:31,990 --> 01:49:30,239 second question 2709 01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:32,000 was that okay if you don't want to 2710 01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:34,159 discuss e.t or extraterrestrials 2711 01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:36,639 visiting our planet here in the public 2712 01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:38,080 hearing 2713 01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:40,639 will we be discussing it later this 2714 01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:43,280 afternoon in the classified briefing i 2715 01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:45,199 forgot about that what was the response 2716 01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:50,870 that was the response interesting okay 2717 01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:52,880 okay okay so i i you know i kind of 2718 01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:55,119 missed that i i i need to go back and 2719 01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:57,199 probably watch that thing again a little 2720 01:50:03,189 --> 01:49:59,599 tighter uh but uh yeah 2721 01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:03,199 uh okay so i'll say i'm gonna paraphrase 2722 01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:05,760 uh a little bit here 2723 01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:08,239 um but bray 2724 01:50:12,149 --> 01:50:10,880 at that point uh changed his tune a 2725 01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:12,159 little bit 2726 01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:14,239 um in that the door was starting to 2727 01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:15,440 crack open 2728 01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:18,159 and he said of course i'm i'm interested 2729 01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:21,520 in in extraterrestrials and and e.t 2730 01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:24,639 visiting this planet and i am going to 2731 01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:27,119 go where the evidence takes me during 2732 01:50:33,910 --> 01:50:30,320 these investigations and then moultrie 2733 01:50:36,709 --> 01:50:33,920 uh echoed uh that that answer 2734 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:36,719 and and for me i well i would have loved 2735 01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:38,560 to have been at the classified briefing 2736 01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:40,960 to see if this was indeed brought up but 2737 01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:42,880 it was a moment where 2738 01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:45,840 i think welch got got this this hearing 2739 01:50:50,870 --> 01:50:48,159 going in another direction 2740 01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:50,880 and we are definitely talking about et's 2741 01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:52,560 and extraterrestrials here we're not 2742 01:50:56,310 --> 01:50:53,920 talking about 2743 01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:56,320 your job that you should be doing which 2744 01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:59,040 is uh our airspace and the safety of our 2745 01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:01,360 military in this country they're talking 2746 01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:03,199 about those things 2747 01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:06,480 but the et issue is just looming behind 2748 01:51:10,950 --> 01:51:09,360 it right okay so there is the there is 2749 01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:10,960 the process and the setting up and the 2750 01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:12,639 programs and all that stuff which i told 2751 01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:14,400 you is basically an orchestrated thing 2752 01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:17,040 in order to try to uh minimize the 2753 01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:19,040 blowback for for the politicians and the 2754 01:51:22,390 --> 01:51:20,960 dod so they're talking about that but 2755 01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:22,400 the et thing that's always hanging 2756 01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:25,199 behind and and and and well i think you 2757 01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:27,280 know he put that out there so he 2758 01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:29,520 between welch and between gallagher 2759 01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:31,679 clearly they're letting a lot of people 2760 01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,840 they're paying attention including other 2761 01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:35,520 members of congress and other committee 2762 01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:38,159 members that like you know 2763 01:51:42,550 --> 01:51:40,719 this isn't going to stop here 2764 01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:42,560 we we have much more we're going to be 2765 01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:44,560 doing coming down the line so you know 2766 01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:47,360 that uh and that's fine and and again i 2767 01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:51,040 i have empathy for bray and for moultrie 2768 01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:53,920 uh they come up on that hill to try to 2769 01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:56,400 represent the current status of what the 2770 01:52:02,470 --> 01:51:59,920 dod is doing under requests by two uh 2771 01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:02,480 appropriations act uh coming out of the 2772 01:52:07,990 --> 01:52:05,040 house and senate uh both of them being 2773 01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:08,000 initiated by the senate uh gillibrand 2774 01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:10,400 and rubio but then diego comes in and 2775 01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:12,159 gets the house involved and they're and 2776 01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:15,199 they're sitting on this massive thing 2777 01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:16,960 and they're just you know 2778 01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:19,040 they can't address this massive thing 2779 01:52:23,030 --> 01:52:21,199 they just need to kind of 2780 01:52:25,430 --> 01:52:23,040 tell the congress what's going on over 2781 01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:25,440 the dod but they're not in a position to 2782 01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:27,360 ask the ten answer the ten thousand 2783 01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,520 questions that will ultimately be asked 2784 01:52:33,830 --> 01:52:31,040 and they've got to navigate that and i 2785 01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:33,840 have a lot of appreciation for for that 2786 01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:35,760 and they did the best they could yeah i 2787 01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:38,880 sort of do except i'm saying sort of um 2788 01:52:43,109 --> 01:52:40,960 i think that both bray and moultrie 2789 01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:43,119 expected to be able to just go in and 2790 01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:44,639 phone it in 2791 01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:45,280 and 2792 01:52:48,229 --> 01:52:46,639 that they were just going to skate 2793 01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:48,239 through this i i don't think that they 2794 01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:50,000 were prepared for the directions of 2795 01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:50,880 things 2796 01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:52,400 um number one could they have been 2797 01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:54,080 though how could they have been how 2798 01:52:57,589 --> 01:52:56,159 could they possibly have prepared no 2799 01:52:59,669 --> 01:52:57,599 problem all of them 2800 01:53:02,470 --> 01:52:59,679 they were expecting to just go in and do 2801 01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:02,480 90 minutes and and phone it in and and 2802 01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:04,080 get out of there 2803 01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:05,920 and and i think that i think the 2804 01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:07,440 evidence for that 2805 01:53:11,669 --> 01:53:09,280 uh now the committee now it's different 2806 01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:11,679 the committee was was there to you know 2807 01:53:17,830 --> 01:53:14,159 they meant business oh yeah 2808 01:53:19,750 --> 01:53:17,840 but the i think that the unpreparedness 2809 01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:19,760 showed with that video 2810 01:53:23,189 --> 01:53:21,520 oh yeah yeah i want to talk about those 2811 01:53:25,589 --> 01:53:23,199 videos for sure so let's go i mean 2812 01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:25,599 totally unprepared no slow motion no 2813 01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:28,960 freeze frame no screen grabs uh nothing 2814 01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:31,599 unprepared couldn't find it 2815 01:53:34,870 --> 01:53:33,199 what are we looking at are we looking at 2816 01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,880 that what is it that we're trying to see 2817 01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:36,800 here and and we had to deal with that 2818 01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:39,119 for five or ten minutes wasting time 2819 01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:41,119 because they weren't prepared what did 2820 01:53:43,910 --> 01:53:42,560 you think 2821 01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:43,920 yes i mean again this fits remember 2822 01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:45,599 remember the perspective that i have on 2823 01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:47,040 this what i've said earlier right you 2824 01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:48,960 have to constantly keep that in mind uh 2825 01:53:53,270 --> 01:53:51,520 but before i before i uh what was i 2826 01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:53,280 gonna say um 2827 01:53:57,109 --> 01:53:55,360 okay um 2828 01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:57,119 okay let me go to let me go to the here 2829 01:54:00,950 --> 01:53:59,119 the the videos uh 2830 01:54:03,109 --> 01:54:00,960 they knew that they they had to come up 2831 01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:03,119 with something they couldn't just walk 2832 01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:04,400 up 2833 01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:05,920 into that hearing knowing all the 2834 01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:07,679 massive expectations that were out there 2835 01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:09,360 and not have something right that's 2836 01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:11,199 right something you know a little 2837 01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:12,239 pizzazz 2838 01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:14,000 referring to evidence 2839 01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:16,400 okay but again they have to be very 2840 01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:22,390 they they there's a process underway and 2841 01:54:26,470 --> 01:54:23,920 you need to kind of stick with that 2842 01:54:28,629 --> 01:54:26,480 process if you step outside of it all 2843 01:54:30,390 --> 01:54:28,639 kinds of problems can develop and so 2844 01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:30,400 they brought two videos with them god 2845 01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:32,239 bless them now they could have brought 2846 01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:34,880 much more powerful videos right just 2847 01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:37,040 just the tic tac alone and bringing that 2848 01:54:41,109 --> 01:54:38,800 back up uh 2849 01:54:42,870 --> 01:54:41,119 would have been intense because that 2850 01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:42,880 thing has been viewed by hundreds of 2851 01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:44,560 millions of people i don't know it's 2852 01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:46,000 been viewed billions of times around the 2853 01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:47,679 world in my view it's everywhere you 2854 01:54:50,870 --> 01:54:49,360 can't get away from it and there's been 2855 01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:50,880 a lot of discussion we know a lot about 2856 01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:52,719 it you bring that up now you're opening 2857 01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:54,320 up to a whole bunch of things and 2858 01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:55,679 questions that they don't want to get 2859 01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:56,400 into 2860 01:55:01,430 --> 01:54:59,040 so they brought up two videos and now 2861 01:55:03,910 --> 01:55:01,440 and and what's amusing about it 2862 01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:03,920 is that most the vast majority of the 2863 01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:06,480 public wouldn't have an idea what those 2864 01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:08,719 videos really meant or how important 2865 01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:10,000 they might be and they don't really show 2866 01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:11,599 that much 2867 01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:13,440 and they would go you know nothing i 2868 01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:15,920 don't know what to do with that 2869 01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:17,440 but the people that know a lot about 2870 01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:18,800 this subject 2871 01:55:22,310 --> 01:55:20,560 would have understood that there was 2872 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:22,320 something important there but it wasn't 2873 01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:23,440 going to come out in that hearing now 2874 01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:26,239 what am i referring to 2875 01:55:29,990 --> 01:55:27,920 the one that has the thing going by the 2876 01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:30,000 jet it a gazillion miles an hour and 2877 01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:31,920 they can't even slow it down and they 2878 01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:33,440 didn't have it prepared because i don't 2879 01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:34,560 think they thought there was going to be 2880 01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:36,159 that much pressure to actually see the 2881 01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:37,840 damn thing and they could have had a 2882 01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:39,840 screenshot right so 2883 01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,599 that was awkward that was a mistake on 2884 01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:43,440 their part i hope there's mistakes they 2885 01:55:46,790 --> 01:55:44,800 made that i hope the next people from 2886 01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:46,800 the dod come up don't make 2887 01:55:49,750 --> 01:55:47,920 uh 2888 01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:49,760 what i mean so boom there it is what 2889 01:55:54,870 --> 01:55:52,320 does that mean nobody is thinking that's 2890 01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:54,880 a special thing except 2891 01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:56,800 if you're following all of this and a 2892 01:56:01,990 --> 01:55:59,520 lot of people on ufo twitter are 2893 01:56:04,390 --> 01:56:02,000 you know that what's shot by that jet 2894 01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,400 has been reported by a number of pilots 2895 01:56:09,589 --> 01:56:06,719 uh in some detail 2896 01:56:12,629 --> 01:56:09,599 and what that was was a transparent 2897 01:56:14,470 --> 01:56:12,639 sphere with a black cube in the middle 2898 01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:14,480 of it that the pilot said it seemed like 2899 01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:15,920 the edges of the black cube were 2900 01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:18,239 actually touching the sphere with no 2901 01:56:25,910 --> 01:56:21,840 means of propulsion all right going very 2902 01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,920 very fast and so in fact that video is 2903 01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:28,320 represented of something very very 2904 01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:30,159 evidentially powerful 2905 01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:32,400 in fact pilots and i believe ryan graves 2906 01:56:36,390 --> 01:56:34,320 is talking about this i forget i need to 2907 01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:36,400 check on that this is the pilot out 2908 01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:37,920 there that's been giving some tremendous 2909 01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:40,080 uh information 2910 01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:41,679 it turns out that 2911 01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:43,119 you know you got the tic tacs that have 2912 01:56:47,589 --> 01:56:45,280 been seen a lot but these spheres have 2913 01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:47,599 been seen a lot in fact you have reports 2914 01:56:52,950 --> 01:56:49,920 from pilots where these spears with the 2915 01:56:54,070 --> 01:56:52,960 black cube in it moving how the hell we 2916 01:56:56,470 --> 01:56:54,080 don't know 2917 01:56:58,390 --> 01:56:56,480 would be traveling in formations of like 2918 01:57:01,589 --> 01:56:58,400 six like maybe you saw in the phoenix 2919 01:57:03,430 --> 01:57:01,599 lights and then behind it would be a 2920 01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:03,440 craft somewhat like the gimbal or maybe 2921 01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:05,360 even the tic tac that's kind of almost 2922 01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:07,520 like it's being escorted 2923 01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:10,000 all right so this beer thing is a big 2924 01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:12,639 deal well that was what was in that film 2925 01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:14,480 we'll be hearing more about that later 2926 01:57:18,470 --> 01:57:16,400 but it wasn't wasn't a big deal in terms 2927 01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:18,480 of the press conference of the the the 2928 01:57:21,910 --> 01:57:19,920 hearing now let's talk about the other 2929 01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:21,920 video what do you got there well what 2930 01:57:26,950 --> 01:57:24,639 you got there is a navy worship that's 2931 01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:26,960 filming some stuff at night and infrared 2932 01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:29,360 and there's things flying around okay 2933 01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:30,320 okay 2934 01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:32,320 and uh uh 2935 01:57:35,750 --> 01:57:34,880 okay what does that mean and not hard to 2936 01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:35,760 know 2937 01:57:40,310 --> 01:57:38,239 and and then uh moltrea kind of went a 2938 01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:40,320 little went a little further than he 2939 01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:42,320 than he had before he got he got into 2940 01:57:47,669 --> 01:57:45,760 the i guess explanation mode which 2941 01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:47,679 they shouldn't have done but he starts 2942 01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:50,080 to talk about well uh 2943 01:57:53,350 --> 01:57:52,159 it could be drones and the way the light 2944 01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:53,360 bounces off and goes through the 2945 01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:55,599 infrared camera or whatever it ends up 2946 01:58:01,189 --> 01:57:58,400 it kind of looks like a triangle 2947 01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:01,199 i'm going really okay 2948 01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:03,440 but that's not what was important 2949 01:58:07,430 --> 01:58:04,960 what was important is they were showing 2950 01:58:09,669 --> 01:58:07,440 you an instance where a bunch of things 2951 01:58:10,709 --> 01:58:09,679 were flying around in navy warship 2952 01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:10,719 right 2953 01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:11,760 at night 2954 01:58:14,390 --> 01:58:13,199 that was being picked up certainly on 2955 01:58:16,070 --> 01:58:14,400 infrared i don't know if it was being 2956 01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:16,080 seen 2957 01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:18,560 and most people watching that would have 2958 01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,040 not considered the fact that you don't 2959 01:58:25,030 --> 01:58:23,280 fly around 2960 01:58:26,870 --> 01:58:25,040 a navy worship 2961 01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:26,880 you could see you you don't you don't 2962 01:58:30,950 --> 01:58:28,960 approach it with a with a canoe or a 2963 01:58:32,270 --> 01:58:30,960 kayak or a motorboat you don't approach 2964 01:58:35,270 --> 01:58:32,280 it with a cessna 2965 01:58:37,589 --> 01:58:35,280 102. you don't get near it at all and if 2966 01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:37,599 you do you're going to get warned off 2967 01:58:41,189 --> 01:58:39,520 and if in in a very short amount of time 2968 01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,199 you're going to get blown 2969 01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:43,679 out of the water out of the sky 2970 01:58:48,550 --> 01:58:46,239 uh and commanders of navy warships that 2971 01:58:51,030 --> 01:58:48,560 allowed their ship to be approached in a 2972 01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:51,040 way by by things they don't get that 2973 01:58:54,070 --> 01:58:52,719 don't deal with that they lose their 2974 01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:54,080 command 2975 01:58:57,830 --> 01:58:56,159 okay i don't know what happened to the 2976 01:58:59,350 --> 01:58:57,840 of course it was docked 2977 01:59:01,030 --> 01:58:59,360 right i don't know what happened to the 2978 01:59:02,790 --> 01:59:01,040 the commander of the 2979 01:59:04,550 --> 01:59:02,800 i think it was a destroyer 2980 01:59:07,109 --> 01:59:04,560 that was blown 2981 01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:07,119 it was uh a boat came up in yemen it 2982 01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:08,800 while it was docked and blew a hole in 2983 01:59:13,430 --> 01:59:11,520 the side killed a bunch of gold 2984 01:59:15,669 --> 01:59:13,440 yeah uh he probably lost that command 2985 01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:15,679 but you just don't do that and so what 2986 01:59:19,990 --> 01:59:17,280 you're supposed to be seeing is some of 2987 01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:20,000 their high uh high uh 2988 01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:22,400 rapid fire uh guns just blowing these 2989 01:59:26,870 --> 01:59:24,719 things out of the sky right but you what 2990 01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:26,880 wasn't happening and so in that sense it 2991 01:59:30,709 --> 01:59:29,520 was a lot more significant and i think 2992 01:59:33,189 --> 01:59:30,719 some people i've actually heard this 2993 01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:33,199 people think well man you know who's out 2994 01:59:36,070 --> 01:59:34,560 there you know 2995 01:59:37,430 --> 01:59:36,080 you know in a boat maybe a motorboat 2996 01:59:38,709 --> 01:59:37,440 that's cruising out to have a little fun 2997 01:59:40,629 --> 01:59:38,719 with the navy and they're launching some 2998 01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,639 drones off of their little boat and and 2999 01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:42,239 having them fly around the ship to have 3000 01:59:46,149 --> 01:59:44,000 some fun actually we've seen that 3001 01:59:48,629 --> 01:59:46,159 happening in in the united states near 3002 01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:48,639 some of our airports uh no there's 3003 01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:50,880 nobody doing that so again 3004 01:59:54,870 --> 01:59:52,639 safe videos that actually have 3005 01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:54,880 significance if you know enough but it's 3006 01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:56,320 not going to create a problem during the 3007 02:00:00,470 --> 01:59:58,560 hearing so that's that's what i i saw 3008 02:00:01,990 --> 02:00:00,480 about that now let me tell you something 3009 02:00:04,229 --> 02:00:02,000 else about that happened in this hearing 3010 02:00:06,229 --> 02:00:04,239 that was non-trivial okay we've got 30 3011 02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:06,239 seconds stephen before the break okay 3012 02:00:09,990 --> 02:00:07,840 i'll just give you the the the tip and 3013 02:00:12,229 --> 02:00:10,000 then after which one it involves tim 3014 02:00:13,510 --> 02:00:12,239 burchette all right the one that went 3015 02:00:15,109 --> 02:00:13,520 and went 3016 02:00:17,430 --> 02:00:15,119 and had that interview with uh leland 3017 02:00:19,430 --> 02:00:17,440 vidard and basically said there's 3018 02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:19,440 extraterrestrials here in answering one 3019 02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:21,360 of his questions all right 3020 02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:24,560 uh and so tim burchette uh actually uh 3021 02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:26,960 plays a role in the hearing which uh was 3022 02:00:31,589 --> 02:00:29,520 rather interesting uh and and as and as 3023 02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:31,599 on you can find that online and after 3024 02:00:34,550 --> 02:00:33,760 the break i'll i'll kind of explain yeah 3025 02:00:37,589 --> 02:00:34,560 yeah 3026 02:00:39,830 --> 02:00:37,599 it's a key moment for me um there's 3027 02:00:42,229 --> 02:00:39,840 nothing like armchair quarterback at a 3028 02:00:44,310 --> 02:00:42,239 ufo hearing absolutely 3029 02:00:46,709 --> 02:00:44,320 and we'll do all of that when we come 3030 02:00:48,070 --> 02:00:46,719 back this is fade to black i am your 3031 02:00:49,270 --> 02:00:48,080 host jimmy church i guess tonight the 3032 02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:49,280 one and only 3033 02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:52,000 stephen bassett from 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mr 3094 02:03:53,350 --> 02:03:51,280 brush 3095 02:03:59,830 --> 02:03:53,360 why fade to black 3096 02:04:09,780 --> 02:04:02,069 this is fade to black with jimmy church 3097 02:04:20,310 --> 02:04:18,310 [Music] 3098 02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:20,320 welcome back fate to black i am your 3099 02:04:25,030 --> 02:04:21,760 host tv church 3100 02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:25,040 it is the ufo hearing week here on fate 3101 02:04:28,390 --> 02:04:26,639 of black tonight steve ambassador is 3102 02:04:30,550 --> 02:04:28,400 with us tomorrow night sean cahill and a 3103 02:04:32,709 --> 02:04:30,560 very special guest 3104 02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:32,719 wednesday night we have ron james here 3105 02:04:35,510 --> 02:04:34,560 from mufon and then thursday night of 3106 02:04:37,669 --> 02:04:35,520 course 3107 02:04:40,069 --> 02:04:37,679 is another fader night with open lines 3108 02:04:40,950 --> 02:04:40,079 all night long and right now 3109 02:04:44,629 --> 02:04:40,960 uh 3110 02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:44,639 steven and i right before the break were 3111 02:04:50,149 --> 02:04:47,440 uh discussing when i say armchair 3112 02:04:51,430 --> 02:04:50,159 quarterback right the the the aftermath 3113 02:04:54,310 --> 02:04:51,440 of the hearing 3114 02:04:57,189 --> 02:04:54,320 and representative burchette 3115 02:04:59,430 --> 02:04:57,199 uh didn't didn't pull any punches he 3116 02:05:00,790 --> 02:04:59,440 didn't pull one punch back he let it fly 3117 02:05:03,589 --> 02:05:00,800 didn't he 3118 02:05:05,030 --> 02:05:03,599 well what happened is that tim came down 3119 02:05:07,270 --> 02:05:05,040 to watch the hearing 3120 02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:07,280 okay he was in the audience he's not on 3121 02:05:10,069 --> 02:05:08,719 the committee 3122 02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:10,079 and uh 3123 02:05:14,069 --> 02:05:12,400 so naturally he knew the press because 3124 02:05:17,510 --> 02:05:14,079 of what he had said on 3125 02:05:20,709 --> 02:05:19,189 on news nation he knew they were going 3126 02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:20,719 to come up to him so 3127 02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:22,800 he's got three or four press around him 3128 02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:24,960 and he starts to tee off and he 3129 02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:26,639 basically is saying 3130 02:05:30,069 --> 02:05:28,480 this now this hearing was just they 3131 02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:30,079 didn't even go far enough we need 3132 02:05:35,189 --> 02:05:32,560 witnesses up here uh he mentions 3133 02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:35,199 cover-up uh and this thing has got to 3134 02:05:39,750 --> 02:05:37,840 get you know and he's just doubling down 3135 02:05:42,950 --> 02:05:39,760 completely all right 3136 02:05:44,069 --> 02:05:42,960 uh and that's fine okay so that's what 3137 02:05:46,229 --> 02:05:44,079 so 3138 02:05:49,030 --> 02:05:46,239 this this wasn't an accident 3139 02:05:49,990 --> 02:05:49,040 so literally what i'm saying i'll say 3140 02:05:51,589 --> 02:05:50,000 again 3141 02:05:53,589 --> 02:05:51,599 you're going to see members of congress 3142 02:05:55,589 --> 02:05:53,599 starting to compete with who can get out 3143 02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:55,599 in front of this issue the most who can 3144 02:05:59,589 --> 02:05:57,119 say the most 3145 02:06:03,109 --> 02:05:59,599 which brings up another point 3146 02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:03,119 uh when when uh um 3147 02:06:06,069 --> 02:06:04,480 brisette 3148 02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:06,079 said on that show 3149 02:06:10,229 --> 02:06:08,800 he he answered number three 3150 02:06:12,149 --> 02:06:10,239 that answer says there's an extra 3151 02:06:13,589 --> 02:06:12,159 threshold but he didn't say it matter of 3152 02:06:15,910 --> 02:06:13,599 factly okay 3153 02:06:18,310 --> 02:06:15,920 you may see a member of congress very 3154 02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:18,320 soon go in front of a camera and say i 3155 02:06:22,550 --> 02:06:20,400 think there's extraterrestrials here or 3156 02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:22,560 i know there's extraterrestrials here 3157 02:06:26,790 --> 02:06:24,880 that will be pretty cool and that will 3158 02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:26,800 help to advance the disclosure process 3159 02:06:31,270 --> 02:06:29,920 and these hearings is that disclosure it 3160 02:06:33,270 --> 02:06:31,280 is not 3161 02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:33,280 uh a member of congress saying there's 3162 02:06:36,470 --> 02:06:35,040 extraterrestrial here is not going to 3163 02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:36,480 trigger uh 3164 02:06:41,109 --> 02:06:39,040 a whole bunch of very important things 3165 02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:41,119 uh that would fall from that 3166 02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:42,800 it just doesn't have the gravitas it 3167 02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:44,800 doesn't have the power disclosure 3168 02:06:50,390 --> 02:06:46,800 capital d can only come from the head of 3169 02:06:52,709 --> 02:06:50,400 state that triggers a huge array of 3170 02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:52,719 things unfolding and takes us where we 3171 02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:54,560 have to go however 3172 02:06:56,870 --> 02:06:56,079 you know if a member of congress wants 3173 02:06:58,870 --> 02:06:56,880 to 3174 02:07:01,990 --> 02:06:58,880 make the statement ahead of time no 3175 02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:02,000 problem so look for more of this okay 3176 02:07:07,990 --> 02:07:04,880 and then along these lines i'd like to 3177 02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:08,000 mention something that is uh i think 3178 02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:12,790 there is somebody that did say there was 3179 02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:15,199 an extraterrestrial presence here 3180 02:07:18,470 --> 02:07:17,199 uh and i mean somebody fairly well known 3181 02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:18,480 and high up 3182 02:07:22,629 --> 02:07:20,400 and i'm referring to billionaire robert 3183 02:07:24,629 --> 02:07:22,639 bigelow who was the first billionaire to 3184 02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:24,639 ever say there's extraterrestrials here 3185 02:07:31,350 --> 02:07:29,440 okay he did it in may of 19 2017 on and 3186 02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:31,360 in front of millions of people 3187 02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:32,159 right 3188 02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:34,960 many more than than tim burchette was in 3189 02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:37,520 the audience on news nation 3190 02:07:40,870 --> 02:07:39,360 and he did it on 60 minutes to laura 3191 02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:40,880 logan and he said twice there's 3192 02:07:45,669 --> 02:07:42,560 extraterrestrials here 3193 02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:45,679 that was a pretty big deal may of 2017. 3194 02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:48,800 60 minutes yeah yeah air 60 minutes okay 3195 02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:50,560 well there was some press coverage of 3196 02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:52,719 that a little here a little there it's 3197 02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:54,800 all archived on my website wasn't that 3198 02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:57,360 big a deal and it just we just moved on 3199 02:08:00,310 --> 02:07:59,280 okay fine okay 3200 02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:00,320 uh 3201 02:08:04,790 --> 02:08:02,320 now seven months later 3202 02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:04,800 the new york times articles come out 3203 02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:07,360 whoa announcing the programs the a-tip 3204 02:08:12,629 --> 02:08:10,079 awsap right carrie reid the 22 million 3205 02:08:15,589 --> 02:08:12,639 dollars and very quickly we learned that 3206 02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:15,599 bigelow was a key aspect of this 3207 02:08:18,790 --> 02:08:17,920 that he a lot of that money went 3208 02:08:21,030 --> 02:08:18,800 to 3209 02:08:22,550 --> 02:08:21,040 including offset which is a guy getting 3210 02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:22,560 into the skinwalker ranch and some of 3211 02:08:27,350 --> 02:08:24,239 the uh i guess you could say quote 3212 02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:27,360 paranormal things and as well as uh 3213 02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:30,079 you uaps and atip 3214 02:08:32,709 --> 02:08:31,360 some of that money went to him i don't 3215 02:08:34,709 --> 02:08:32,719 think it all went to him but he was 3216 02:08:37,990 --> 02:08:34,719 doing a lot of research as part of that 3217 02:08:40,069 --> 02:08:38,000 program under contract with a dod and we 3218 02:08:41,350 --> 02:08:40,079 in the the emphasis uh 3219 02:08:43,189 --> 02:08:41,360 the most important thing that came out 3220 02:08:45,109 --> 02:08:43,199 was he was doing materials research he 3221 02:08:46,709 --> 02:08:45,119 set up a lab at bigelow aerospace and 3222 02:08:48,709 --> 02:08:46,719 he's doing materials research on 3223 02:08:50,310 --> 02:08:48,719 materials that were provided to him by 3224 02:08:52,870 --> 02:08:50,320 the dod 3225 02:08:55,510 --> 02:08:52,880 okay he was part of the program he was 3226 02:08:57,189 --> 02:08:55,520 inside about that he has since denied it 3227 02:08:58,870 --> 02:08:57,199 and so is everybody else that there was 3228 02:09:00,470 --> 02:08:58,880 any materials there 3229 02:09:01,189 --> 02:09:00,480 um i think 3230 02:09:03,430 --> 02:09:01,199 yeah 3231 02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:03,440 i need to see that fleshed out because i 3232 02:09:08,390 --> 02:09:04,400 remember 3233 02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,400 i'm saying that now 3234 02:09:11,910 --> 02:09:10,159 uh it's a different it's a different 3235 02:09:14,310 --> 02:09:11,920 tone when it comes to the materials well 3236 02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:14,320 we know he was involved but of course we 3237 02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:15,520 do okay 3238 02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:18,560 so that five month period though 3239 02:09:23,830 --> 02:09:20,719 was it was even more extraordinary than 3240 02:09:26,069 --> 02:09:23,840 that because that happened in may 3241 02:09:27,910 --> 02:09:26,079 then two things happened in october that 3242 02:09:29,669 --> 02:09:27,920 were huge one 3243 02:09:33,669 --> 02:09:29,679 tom delonge had his live press 3244 02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:33,679 conference yeah and number two probably 3245 02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:36,239 even bigger than all of that 3246 02:09:41,350 --> 02:09:38,880 omua shows up 3247 02:09:43,430 --> 02:09:41,360 and does its drive-by well wait a minute 3248 02:09:46,069 --> 02:09:43,440 i'm not a big fan of omomu 3249 02:09:47,510 --> 02:09:46,079 you don't have to be but the press was 3250 02:09:49,430 --> 02:09:47,520 yeah no no the press is jumping on 3251 02:09:51,109 --> 02:09:49,440 everything now anything they'll jump on 3252 02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:51,119 all of this was happening at the same 3253 02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:53,520 time stephen 3254 02:09:56,950 --> 02:09:54,960 no there's always something happening 3255 02:09:59,830 --> 02:09:56,960 but i'm folk i always tend to focus on 3256 02:10:01,830 --> 02:09:59,840 those things that i can connect uh very 3257 02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:01,840 clearly to the disclosure process look 3258 02:10:05,270 --> 02:10:03,520 when when to the stars academy came out 3259 02:10:07,270 --> 02:10:05,280 it was a big deal but 3260 02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:07,280 megalo was not mentioned he's not it was 3261 02:10:10,470 --> 02:10:09,040 not part of the academy he wasn't 3262 02:10:12,229 --> 02:10:10,480 mentioned he doesn't get mentioned until 3263 02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:12,239 the new york times articles come out and 3264 02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:14,000 so but here is the point i'm trying to 3265 02:10:17,350 --> 02:10:16,560 make and and this is so 3266 02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:17,360 so 3267 02:10:23,270 --> 02:10:19,840 um representative of how the truth 3268 02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:23,280 embargo has survived for still for 75 3269 02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:24,880 years all right 3270 02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:25,840 so 3271 02:10:31,910 --> 02:10:28,800 all this comes out and you would think 3272 02:10:34,790 --> 02:10:31,920 that an editor a publisher a reporter a 3273 02:10:36,790 --> 02:10:34,800 news talk show host or whatever would 3274 02:10:38,069 --> 02:10:36,800 have would have said oh 3275 02:10:41,910 --> 02:10:38,079 wait a minute 3276 02:10:45,189 --> 02:10:41,920 this guy who was involved with the dod's 3277 02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:45,199 effort to look at this subject for years 3278 02:10:49,030 --> 02:10:47,119 and and received millions of dollars to 3279 02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:49,040 do research and so forth 3280 02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:51,599 didn't he say seven months ago on 60 3281 02:10:54,470 --> 02:10:52,960 minutes there was an extraterrestrial 3282 02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:54,480 presence here 3283 02:10:59,430 --> 02:10:57,520 which means that maybe that's exactly 3284 02:11:01,990 --> 02:10:59,440 what he meant that that in fact was not 3285 02:11:05,669 --> 02:11:02,000 some joke he was playing and that that's 3286 02:11:07,589 --> 02:11:05,679 kind of a big deal but they didn't i i 3287 02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:07,599 watched the news it was like no 3288 02:11:13,990 --> 02:11:10,400 connections anybody made this connection 3289 02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:14,000 and i'm going oh man you give me a break 3290 02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:16,320 it was a gift it was a gift 3291 02:11:21,109 --> 02:11:19,520 and and i totally agree i it was a gift 3292 02:11:23,910 --> 02:11:21,119 there was a lot of 3293 02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:23,920 um i i think that the media even though 3294 02:11:28,069 --> 02:11:26,239 they were covering it and they certainly 3295 02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:28,079 saw through the clicks and the way that 3296 02:11:32,069 --> 02:11:29,920 the public paid attention to this that 3297 02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:32,079 this was something that the world cares 3298 02:11:35,430 --> 02:11:33,520 about for sure 3299 02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:35,440 but but the reporters and the 3300 02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:37,040 journalists out there were still testing 3301 02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:39,119 the water stephen nobody really wanted 3302 02:11:44,550 --> 02:11:42,159 to dip their toe in there was you know 3303 02:11:46,870 --> 02:11:44,560 and and go and go straight after this 3304 02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:46,880 you had blumenthal you had leslie kane 3305 02:11:52,950 --> 02:11:48,880 but i'm talking about what you're 3306 02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:52,960 referencing which was everybody else uh 3307 02:11:58,149 --> 02:11:56,079 let me let me let me speak to that look 3308 02:12:00,629 --> 02:11:58,159 the new york times didn't want to 3309 02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:00,639 stick their toe in the water in uh you 3310 02:12:07,830 --> 02:12:05,119 know december 1617 uh with that uh in 3311 02:12:09,270 --> 02:12:07,840 fact they made a major play there uh 3312 02:12:10,149 --> 02:12:09,280 knowing that it was going to be pretty 3313 02:12:11,669 --> 02:12:10,159 big 3314 02:12:14,550 --> 02:12:11,679 uh but 3315 02:12:17,430 --> 02:12:14,560 and and the question is why did they not 3316 02:12:19,109 --> 02:12:17,440 also uh address the statement by bigelow 3317 02:12:20,229 --> 02:12:19,119 the moment that he was brought out the 3318 02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:20,239 washington post should have done the 3319 02:12:25,510 --> 02:12:22,960 same thing and the reason is 3320 02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:25,520 that's exactly my point nobody wanted to 3321 02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:27,840 dip their toe in the water it was a gift 3322 02:12:33,750 --> 02:12:30,400 let me let me give you another gift that 3323 02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:33,760 happened shortly after that a year later 3324 02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:35,920 uh the one of the follow-up articles by 3325 02:12:42,069 --> 02:12:38,480 the new york times has 3326 02:12:44,629 --> 02:12:42,079 the uh earlier reference dr eric davis 3327 02:12:48,069 --> 02:12:44,639 buried in the article literally is 3328 02:12:50,550 --> 02:12:48,079 quoted in the new york times saying i 3329 02:12:53,990 --> 02:12:50,560 had uh classified briefings with the 3330 02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:54,000 senate and right and told them we have 3331 02:12:58,870 --> 02:12:56,880 uh crashed flying saucers not of this 3332 02:13:00,950 --> 02:12:58,880 earth you know and you see you see 3333 02:13:02,629 --> 02:13:00,960 something like that where where's the 3334 02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:02,639 follow-up on that 3335 02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:04,560 where where is the washington post 3336 02:13:09,669 --> 02:13:06,719 where's the la times 3337 02:13:10,790 --> 02:13:09,679 any any any reporter in the world and to 3338 02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:10,800 this day 3339 02:13:16,550 --> 02:13:14,159 has let that go if wilson davis is now 3340 02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:16,560 part of the public record 3341 02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,360 and and davis does have to come forward 3342 02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:21,199 that is a question that needs to be 3343 02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:23,679 followed up on by either the senate 3344 02:13:28,629 --> 02:13:26,159 intelligence committee or the house they 3345 02:13:30,629 --> 02:13:28,639 need to go back and say didn't you say 3346 02:13:32,149 --> 02:13:30,639 aren't you quote aren't you referencing 3347 02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:32,159 the new york times 3348 02:13:36,629 --> 02:13:34,320 saying that you briefed us 3349 02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:36,639 about crash flying saucers 3350 02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:40,000 right yep it's good i i was the point i 3351 02:13:44,709 --> 02:13:42,320 was trying to make was this uh and i've 3352 02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:44,719 talked about this many times before 3353 02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:47,840 the american journalism made a decision 3354 02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:49,280 uh way back 3355 02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:51,679 that became institutionalized that they 3356 02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:53,360 would cover this issue they would write 3357 02:13:56,470 --> 02:13:54,880 about it and they've written thousands 3358 02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:56,480 and thousands of articles i know this 3359 02:14:00,550 --> 02:13:58,400 because i've got 12 000 archived on my 3360 02:14:02,709 --> 02:14:00,560 website right now 3361 02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:02,719 but they would not investigate 3362 02:14:05,750 --> 02:14:04,560 in other words something happens we'll 3363 02:14:07,109 --> 02:14:05,760 write it up we'll write it up we'll 3364 02:14:08,390 --> 02:14:07,119 write it up and there's a whole lot of 3365 02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:08,400 things that happened and they wrote it 3366 02:14:13,350 --> 02:14:10,840 up but they were not going to 3367 02:14:14,790 --> 02:14:13,360 investigate and they knew that because 3368 02:14:18,069 --> 02:14:14,800 that would be 3369 02:14:19,510 --> 02:14:18,079 truth embargo 3370 02:14:21,109 --> 02:14:19,520 and they knew the government does not 3371 02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:21,119 want that out and so that was the 3372 02:14:25,750 --> 02:14:23,360 compromise that somehow or another they 3373 02:14:28,629 --> 02:14:25,760 sort of came to somewhat on their own 3374 02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:28,639 and there have been countless instances 3375 02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:31,199 where where they didn't follow up and 3376 02:14:34,629 --> 02:14:32,400 investigate 3377 02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:34,639 thousands of them and and that's how one 3378 02:14:39,109 --> 02:14:36,400 of the ways the truth embargo has 3379 02:14:40,790 --> 02:14:39,119 survived but the point i'm making about 3380 02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:40,800 bigelow is that there's been a lot of 3381 02:14:45,109 --> 02:14:43,679 things that they have not followed up on 3382 02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:45,119 particularly the nuclear weapons 3383 02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:48,159 tampering but this one was so stark 3384 02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:49,679 right in other words this is the 3385 02:14:54,709 --> 02:14:52,719 representative example that i'm putting 3386 02:14:56,870 --> 02:14:54,719 out there now for all those other 3387 02:14:59,270 --> 02:14:56,880 thousands of things which are not so not 3388 02:15:01,109 --> 02:14:59,280 so obvious you've got somebody that says 3389 02:15:03,270 --> 02:15:01,119 on 60 minutes there's extraterrestrials 3390 02:15:05,430 --> 02:15:03,280 here he gets connected seven months to 3391 02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:05,440 the the investigation and this big huge 3392 02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:08,320 story and nobody starts and 50 reporters 3393 02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:09,840 100 reporters should have gone straight 3394 02:15:15,350 --> 02:15:13,119 to bigelow and said we want to know more 3395 02:15:17,109 --> 02:15:15,360 right why did you say that and they 3396 02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:17,119 didn't do it and i'm not trying to say 3397 02:15:21,910 --> 02:15:20,000 you is the thousands of instances where 3398 02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:21,920 these these papers and these very good 3399 02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:24,560 journalists uh and also the talk shows 3400 02:15:30,149 --> 02:15:27,040 the news news news media the news shows 3401 02:15:32,229 --> 02:15:30,159 have not chosen to follow up is one of 3402 02:15:35,589 --> 02:15:32,239 the reasons a key reason why the truth 3403 02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:35,599 embargo has lasted and i hope that after 3404 02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,360 disclosure takes place 3405 02:15:42,470 --> 02:15:39,520 that every reporter and editor and 3406 02:15:44,229 --> 02:15:42,480 publisher and owner of uh and owners of 3407 02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:44,239 the news network's 3408 02:15:49,589 --> 02:15:46,320 cable and so forth 3409 02:15:52,709 --> 02:15:49,599 step back and think about that 3410 02:15:55,030 --> 02:15:52,719 and ask themselves are we ever going to 3411 02:15:58,629 --> 02:15:55,040 do that again 3412 02:16:01,109 --> 02:15:58,639 well okay so back to burchette 3413 02:16:04,629 --> 02:16:01,119 which is what we were talking about 3414 02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:04,639 15 minutes ago it is there were three 3415 02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:07,760 things that he said uh post-hearing 3416 02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:10,000 uh that i want to directly address 3417 02:16:16,390 --> 02:16:13,440 number one he called the hearing a sham 3418 02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:16,400 and and i'm not paraphrasing here and he 3419 02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:17,440 said 3420 02:16:23,109 --> 02:16:19,840 that uh the american public needs to 3421 02:16:26,069 --> 02:16:23,119 know the truth this cover-up by our 3422 02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,079 government has gone on for too long and 3423 02:16:30,629 --> 02:16:28,560 this ends now that was the direct 3424 02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:30,639 statement and then he turned to the 3425 02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:33,040 cameras because he was pointing and he 3426 02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:34,800 said i'm angry i'm not pointing at you 3427 02:16:40,629 --> 02:16:37,760 guys i i apologize for that i'm just 3428 02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:40,639 upset this this hearing was a sham 3429 02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:42,240 uh burchette 3430 02:16:49,589 --> 02:16:46,880 is is is is he rolling the dice or is he 3431 02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:49,599 saying what needs to be said in that we 3432 02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:52,000 need more hearings and we can't be 3433 02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:54,000 satisfied well he's saying something 3434 02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:56,319 that i and many of my colleagues have 3435 02:17:00,549 --> 02:16:58,639 said repeatedly except that he is a 3436 02:17:04,790 --> 02:17:00,559 sitting member of congress in other 3437 02:17:06,629 --> 02:17:04,800 words this isn't this isn't 1993-45 3438 02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:06,639 and steven schiff trying to get 3439 02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:08,719 information out of the army without 3440 02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:10,960 roswell and be given a run around and 3441 02:17:15,349 --> 02:17:12,800 and embarrassed and getting angry about 3442 02:17:17,629 --> 02:17:15,359 it no no no no we are in the last days 3443 02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:17,639 and months of the truth embargo there's 3444 02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:20,880 535 members of the house and senate okay 3445 02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:23,280 this is the biggest issue of all time 3446 02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:24,240 that 3447 02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:26,559 and we've crossed the rubicon disclosure 3448 02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:29,760 is now on its way and any any number of 3449 02:17:34,709 --> 02:17:32,960 those 535 people can make a decision 3450 02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:34,719 tomorrow they're going to do the same 3451 02:17:39,349 --> 02:17:37,679 thing that burst is doing he is he he is 3452 02:17:42,070 --> 02:17:39,359 a he's not a particularly well-known 3453 02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:42,080 member of congress he he sits on three 3454 02:17:46,549 --> 02:17:44,399 kind of basic committees that they're 3455 02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:46,559 not really involved in what could see 3456 02:17:49,589 --> 02:17:48,160 national security they're the nuts and 3457 02:17:50,629 --> 02:17:49,599 bolts committees about getting stuff 3458 02:17:53,270 --> 02:17:50,639 done 3459 02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,280 uh and he's made the decision okay i may 3460 02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:55,760 not be part of these hearings but i have 3461 02:17:59,509 --> 02:17:57,840 some strong views about this and maybe i 3462 02:18:00,790 --> 02:17:59,519 maybe i've read stanton friedman and 3463 02:18:02,629 --> 02:18:00,800 richard dole in a whole bunch of these 3464 02:18:04,629 --> 02:18:02,639 books i may have a giant library about 3465 02:18:06,629 --> 02:18:04,639 the subject in my basement and i'm 3466 02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:06,639 stepping into it i'm stepping into it 3467 02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:08,880 big time and so tim 3468 02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:11,599 is guaranteed that he is going to be 3469 02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:13,760 getting a whole lot of interviews 3470 02:18:17,750 --> 02:18:15,760 uh going forward because every new thing 3471 02:18:19,110 --> 02:18:17,760 that happens the journalists have got 3472 02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:19,120 him right in his rolodex and what i 3473 02:18:23,190 --> 02:18:20,719 gotta call tim what do you think about 3474 02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:23,200 it and that's great i love it but we 3475 02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:24,880 need to see more we need to see more 3476 02:18:29,990 --> 02:18:27,200 timber sheds coming forward and everyone 3477 02:18:33,270 --> 02:18:30,000 that does guarantees that these hearings 3478 02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:33,280 may take place this summer which brings 3479 02:18:36,709 --> 02:18:34,719 back to another point that i forgot to 3480 02:18:38,950 --> 02:18:36,719 mention well but but hold on 3481 02:18:41,669 --> 02:18:38,960 you didn't answer the question so let me 3482 02:18:43,030 --> 02:18:41,679 let me let me ask again 3483 02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:43,040 he said 3484 02:18:49,509 --> 02:18:46,319 the cover-up has been going on and by 3485 02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:49,519 our government and it has to end now 3486 02:18:53,750 --> 02:18:51,200 absolutely that's what's going on it's 3487 02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:53,760 ending now now i would i i think what 3488 02:18:56,549 --> 02:18:55,439 i'm going to do is tweet him because i 3489 02:18:58,469 --> 02:18:56,559 tweeted him the other day and he 3490 02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:58,479 responded i'm going to tweet him and say 3491 02:19:01,669 --> 02:18:59,519 tim look 3492 02:19:03,830 --> 02:19:01,679 use truth embarco right 3493 02:19:06,150 --> 02:19:03,840 and and the only reason is is the truth 3494 02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:06,160 embargo is the more appropriate term and 3495 02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:08,080 it's it's a little less damning of the 3496 02:19:12,389 --> 02:19:10,479 dod and right now the dod is trying to 3497 02:19:14,870 --> 02:19:12,399 play ball so let's give him a little 3498 02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:14,880 slack okay uh but nevertheless he made 3499 02:19:19,910 --> 02:19:17,439 his point and he was kind of speaking by 3500 02:19:22,309 --> 02:19:19,920 saying cover-up ufos he's speaking to 3501 02:19:24,469 --> 02:19:22,319 the interested public uh the people that 3502 02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:24,479 watch your show and so forth uh so 3503 02:19:29,830 --> 02:19:28,080 anyway again this is this is uh uh 3504 02:19:32,950 --> 02:19:29,840 there's gonna be more of this 3505 02:19:35,190 --> 02:19:32,960 and uh and uh that's that's great uh 3506 02:19:37,190 --> 02:19:35,200 yeah also okay before uh we get to the 3507 02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:37,200 break uh don't worry everybody we're 3508 02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:39,439 doing overtime uh we 3509 02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:41,760 uh we've never not done overtime with 3510 02:19:43,990 --> 02:19:43,120 stephen bassett 3511 02:19:46,469 --> 02:19:44,000 um 3512 02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:46,479 is he also brought 3513 02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:50,160 the video and how disappointed he was 3514 02:19:55,270 --> 02:19:52,880 with the lack of preparation again 3515 02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:55,280 calling out uh 3516 02:20:01,910 --> 02:19:58,960 the representatives there uh for for 3517 02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:01,920 not making sure that these witnesses uh 3518 02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:04,080 are prepared and not wasting everybody's 3519 02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:05,920 time it was the first 3520 02:20:09,429 --> 02:20:07,680 i have never he was the first member 3521 02:20:11,190 --> 02:20:09,439 sitting member of congress to basically 3522 02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:11,200 say there's extraterrestrials here and 3523 02:20:15,030 --> 02:20:12,640 he's the first sitting member of 3524 02:20:16,550 --> 02:20:15,040 congress to has found an opportunity to 3525 02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:16,560 go and blast 3526 02:20:20,230 --> 02:20:19,040 uh i i think look schiff 3527 02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:20,240 way back 3528 02:20:25,750 --> 02:20:21,600 did give some interviews where he's 3529 02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:25,760 blasting the c the uh the the gao and 3530 02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:28,399 the uh the army from giving him the run 3531 02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:30,479 around on trying to do his job which is 3532 02:20:33,670 --> 02:20:31,920 to get that he wanted to get the 3533 02:20:35,510 --> 02:20:33,680 documents uh he want to get records 3534 02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:35,520 about roswell he was a new mexico 3535 02:20:39,190 --> 02:20:37,040 congressman he was doing his job he was 3536 02:20:41,349 --> 02:20:39,200 a he was a former army vet 3537 02:20:42,950 --> 02:20:41,359 uh but it but but burchette has gone 3538 02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:42,960 much further than this 3539 02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:45,040 uh schiff was upset because he wasn't 3540 02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:46,479 getting the records 3541 02:20:50,630 --> 02:20:48,640 burchette is upset because 3542 02:20:52,150 --> 02:20:50,640 there is a truth embargo and it needs to 3543 02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:52,160 end now okay 3544 02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:54,240 but that that's 30 years it's taken 30 3545 02:20:58,790 --> 02:20:56,000 years to get from almost 30 years to get 3546 02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:58,800 from schiff to bercht okay 3547 02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:00,319 much too long 3548 02:21:04,630 --> 02:21:02,960 but it's almost over let me get to that 3549 02:21:06,230 --> 02:21:04,640 point i want to mention it's probably 3550 02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:06,240 the last point and after that it's your 3551 02:21:14,710 --> 02:21:12,469 is that 3552 02:21:17,910 --> 02:21:14,720 if 3553 02:21:20,150 --> 02:21:17,920 there i think a lot of these members 3554 02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:20,160 you know the righteous ones both sides 3555 02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:22,000 both parties 3556 02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:23,600 who are looking at this deeper and 3557 02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:24,640 deeper 3558 02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:26,560 may be coming to a conclusion that i 3559 02:21:31,349 --> 02:21:28,960 have come to 3560 02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:32,469 this 3561 02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:39,439 and there's and here's the reason 3562 02:21:44,630 --> 02:21:42,640 if we can get it done this summer 3563 02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:44,640 and the president of the united states 3564 02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:45,520 can 3565 02:21:49,830 --> 02:21:48,000 make the announcement and confirm it 3566 02:21:53,349 --> 02:21:49,840 then that means that all of the 3567 02:21:55,510 --> 02:21:53,359 candidates running for all 435 3568 02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:55,520 congressional seats the candidates now 3569 02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:56,880 they've been nominated probably be 3570 02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:59,120 nominated by then and and then all of 3571 02:22:03,349 --> 02:22:00,560 the uh 3572 02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:03,359 the 33 members running for the senate 3573 02:22:09,670 --> 02:22:06,640 will be able to speak to this issue to 3574 02:22:11,110 --> 02:22:09,680 their constituents or to the well 3575 02:22:13,190 --> 02:22:11,120 because all the constituents also just 3576 02:22:14,870 --> 02:22:13,200 to the audience they want to get elected 3577 02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:14,880 and and they're going to be able to ask 3578 02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:17,359 and ask answer questions about what do 3579 02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:18,479 you think 3580 02:22:23,429 --> 02:22:21,040 sir madam about 3581 02:22:24,710 --> 02:22:23,439 the fact that we're not alone that this 3582 02:22:25,670 --> 02:22:24,720 has been confirmed what are your 3583 02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:25,680 thoughts 3584 02:22:30,309 --> 02:22:28,000 how do you think we should respond uh 3585 02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:30,319 what kind of policies and so forth and 3586 02:22:35,429 --> 02:22:33,200 therefore the whole et 3587 02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:35,439 president's issue literally becomes 3588 02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:37,439 manifested throughout the entire 3589 02:22:43,510 --> 02:22:40,960 election process in a transparent way 3590 02:22:46,389 --> 02:22:43,520 and it's non-partisan it's something 3591 02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,399 people can look at and go yeah please 3592 02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:48,720 tell me what do you want to do about 3593 02:22:53,910 --> 02:22:51,520 this without expecting to get some hyper 3594 02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:53,920 partisan dog and pony show 3595 02:22:58,790 --> 02:22:55,920 right it's going to be it's going to be 3596 02:23:00,950 --> 02:22:58,800 extremely valuable and the whole world 3597 02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:00,960 will be watching this take place the 3598 02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:03,280 potential value of having this part of 3599 02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:05,680 the campaign is enormous and all they 3600 02:23:10,230 --> 02:23:07,680 have to do is get to the point when the 3601 02:23:12,389 --> 02:23:10,240 president can make the confirmation and 3602 02:23:14,630 --> 02:23:12,399 here's another point i want to make if 3603 02:23:16,309 --> 02:23:14,640 those hearings take place establishing 3604 02:23:18,630 --> 02:23:16,319 an evidentiary 3605 02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:18,640 base in front of the entire world that 3606 02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:20,880 are watching them intensely going on for 3607 02:23:24,309 --> 02:23:22,000 weeks 3608 02:23:27,349 --> 02:23:24,319 so that the president can say it's clear 3609 02:23:29,349 --> 02:23:27,359 from the evidence to me my aides and 3610 02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:29,359 others and leaders in congress that the 3611 02:23:32,630 --> 02:23:31,120 evidence is conclusive 3612 02:23:34,469 --> 02:23:32,640 extraterrestrials are here this 3613 02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:34,479 phenomenon is in fact that and you need 3614 02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:39,990 that way it's it's not going to be 3615 02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:41,040 partisan 3616 02:23:44,830 --> 02:23:42,399 in other words 3617 02:23:48,070 --> 02:23:44,840 for the president to to watch that 3618 02:23:51,190 --> 02:23:48,080 testimony along with everybody else and 3619 02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:51,200 make the decision it clearly it clearly 3620 02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:52,240 concludes that there's an 3621 02:23:57,110 --> 02:23:54,479 extraterrestrial presence but i won't 3622 02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:57,120 confirm it until after the election 3623 02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:58,479 in other words i have to wait until 3624 02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:00,640 after the election to confirm what 3625 02:24:05,590 --> 02:24:03,040 people are already seeing that is 3626 02:24:07,910 --> 02:24:05,600 political that is hyper-political and a 3627 02:24:09,429 --> 02:24:07,920 huge mistake it's it's not his fault 3628 02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:09,439 that he's a democrat in the presidency 3629 02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:11,439 right now he is it was republican the 3630 02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:13,920 republicans have the same problem right 3631 02:24:18,309 --> 02:24:16,560 this whole thing has a way of taking the 3632 02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:18,319 partisanship out even on the 3633 02:24:22,309 --> 02:24:20,560 announcement itself and then all of the 3634 02:24:24,870 --> 02:24:22,319 discussions debates and questions that 3635 02:24:28,309 --> 02:24:24,880 will come after that in the remaining 3636 02:24:31,910 --> 02:24:28,319 weeks or months of this campaign will 3637 02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:31,920 will will tend to emphasize and provide 3638 02:24:36,790 --> 02:24:34,640 this non-partisan platform for all of 3639 02:24:39,190 --> 02:24:36,800 these candidates and the journalists to 3640 02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:39,200 finally be unleashed to say what the 3641 02:24:43,270 --> 02:24:41,200 hell they really think and what they 3642 02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:43,280 know and and what they think should 3643 02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:45,359 happen it's going to be the most 3644 02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:47,520 authority political moment in american 3645 02:24:50,870 --> 02:24:48,640 history that's right that's a 3646 02:24:53,349 --> 02:24:50,880 non-trivial point it's one of the 3647 02:24:54,469 --> 02:24:53,359 biggest situations that confront us 3648 02:24:56,630 --> 02:24:54,479 right now 3649 02:24:58,309 --> 02:24:56,640 and and it's huge and it and it 3650 02:24:59,110 --> 02:24:58,319 shouldn't be uh 3651 02:25:01,110 --> 02:24:59,120 uh 3652 02:25:04,070 --> 02:25:01,120 it shouldn't be dismissed 3653 02:25:05,429 --> 02:25:04,080 and and for me the other big non-trivial 3654 02:25:08,710 --> 02:25:05,439 takeaway 3655 02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:08,720 is the third point uh which was actually 3656 02:25:14,710 --> 02:25:10,880 brichat's first in his 3657 02:25:16,710 --> 02:25:14,720 rant pointing fingers uh with the media 3658 02:25:19,030 --> 02:25:16,720 was that he you know he said you know 3659 02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:19,040 those two guys that's what we did at 3660 02:25:23,910 --> 02:25:20,319 this hearing 3661 02:25:24,710 --> 02:25:23,920 we need to bring forward real witnesses 3662 02:25:28,710 --> 02:25:24,720 that 3663 02:25:30,389 --> 02:25:28,720 fear about their job or their future or 3664 02:25:32,710 --> 02:25:30,399 being ridiculed and they need to be 3665 02:25:35,429 --> 02:25:32,720 protected that's who we need to bring 3666 02:25:38,150 --> 02:25:35,439 forward and again a non-trivial point 3667 02:25:40,950 --> 02:25:38,160 that's exactly what we need at the next 3668 02:25:42,630 --> 02:25:40,960 hearing and burchette who's not a member 3669 02:25:44,870 --> 02:25:42,640 of the committee who was just an 3670 02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:44,880 audience member was saying everything 3671 02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:47,359 that needed to be heard okay let me let 3672 02:25:52,309 --> 02:25:49,920 me uh add some new ones to that 3673 02:25:54,469 --> 02:25:52,319 uh if i were you know by the way i did 3674 02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:54,479 uh tweet or shed and said i'd like to 3675 02:25:58,150 --> 02:25:56,160 talk with him sometime he said yes sir 3676 02:25:59,990 --> 02:25:58,160 that's fine i'm in la right now working 3677 02:26:02,230 --> 02:26:00,000 on a pretty pretty big deal 3678 02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:02,240 and yeah i i could not get back to 3679 02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:04,000 washington for that i 3680 02:26:09,349 --> 02:26:07,200 felt bad about that but it's okay uh uh 3681 02:26:10,790 --> 02:26:09,359 i'll get back in good good time and 3682 02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:10,800 hopefully be in a position where i can 3683 02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:12,880 meet with all of the members that have 3684 02:26:16,950 --> 02:26:14,720 spoken out out about this but first i 3685 02:26:19,270 --> 02:26:16,960 got to get some things done and and 3686 02:26:20,950 --> 02:26:19,280 people need to rediscover me because 3687 02:26:22,469 --> 02:26:20,960 sort of if i've fallen out of a lot of 3688 02:26:25,030 --> 02:26:22,479 rolodexes but here's what i would have 3689 02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:25,040 said to him look tim 3690 02:26:28,870 --> 02:26:27,600 the witnesses don't need protection 3691 02:26:30,950 --> 02:26:28,880 all right 3692 02:26:32,870 --> 02:26:30,960 they're they're not criminals 3693 02:26:34,550 --> 02:26:32,880 and this process is now moving forward 3694 02:26:37,110 --> 02:26:34,560 in a positive way 3695 02:26:39,030 --> 02:26:37,120 uh any witnesses that come before the 3696 02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:39,040 congress right is going to be a military 3697 02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:40,000 witness 3698 02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:41,520 and they're going to speak to what they 3699 02:26:46,230 --> 02:26:43,840 know and what they have seen and we know 3700 02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:46,240 a lot of these have already said these 3701 02:26:49,429 --> 02:26:48,000 things in other venues i just never said 3702 02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:49,439 it under oath 3703 02:26:53,110 --> 02:26:51,680 and so they come up and they're sitting 3704 02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:53,120 there and they're asked questions and 3705 02:26:56,630 --> 02:26:54,720 they'll give truthful answers because 3706 02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:56,640 these are good men and women 3707 02:27:00,389 --> 02:26:58,000 and if there is something that they 3708 02:27:03,830 --> 02:27:00,399 cannot speak to because there's an nda 3709 02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:03,840 involved they don't need some amnesty or 3710 02:27:06,950 --> 02:27:06,080 truth and reconciliation program at that 3711 02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:06,960 point 3712 02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:09,040 they'll simply say i can only speak to 3713 02:27:12,630 --> 02:27:11,120 this in classified session and then 3714 02:27:13,910 --> 02:27:12,640 they'll get to say it in classified 3715 02:27:16,070 --> 02:27:13,920 session and we'll learn about it the 3716 02:27:17,750 --> 02:27:16,080 appropriate time later i don't want to 3717 02:27:19,670 --> 02:27:17,760 put that out that they need protection 3718 02:27:21,830 --> 02:27:19,680 because it it it gives the wrong 3719 02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:21,840 impression about about that and you're 3720 02:27:25,830 --> 02:27:24,399 telling these witnesses you know you 3721 02:27:29,110 --> 02:27:25,840 need protection 3722 02:27:30,550 --> 02:27:29,120 uh and that's not helping them be 3723 02:27:32,870 --> 02:27:30,560 that's not helping them be comfortable 3724 02:27:34,710 --> 02:27:32,880 about this no but that's but that's what 3725 02:27:36,710 --> 02:27:34,720 they are worried about the witnesses 3726 02:27:39,190 --> 02:27:36,720 worry about it the witnesses if they 3727 02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:39,200 they're not i know these i talked about 3728 02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:41,359 these witnesses they are not worried 3729 02:27:45,750 --> 02:27:43,520 look the only protection they need is 3730 02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:45,760 from internet trolls maybe that want to 3731 02:27:49,510 --> 02:27:47,760 give them a hard time or skeptics out 3732 02:27:51,750 --> 02:27:49,520 there they did not they do not need 3733 02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:51,760 protection from the legal establishment 3734 02:27:56,710 --> 02:27:54,319 or the dod or any of that 3735 02:27:59,830 --> 02:27:56,720 criminal i disagree look what happened 3736 02:28:02,550 --> 02:27:59,840 to lou elizondo he's had his emails uh 3737 02:28:05,830 --> 02:28:02,560 uh vaporized he's had susan goff step up 3738 02:28:07,910 --> 02:28:05,840 to the podium and and and literally lie 3739 02:28:10,830 --> 02:28:07,920 about him and we're talking about that's 3740 02:28:13,590 --> 02:28:10,840 the pentagon so we can't talk about 3741 02:28:15,349 --> 02:28:13,600 blowback uh there is there is blowback 3742 02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:15,359 and there are people that are going to 3743 02:28:17,110 --> 02:28:16,240 stop 3744 02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:17,120 uh 3745 02:28:21,110 --> 02:28:19,840 do everything that they can to stop this 3746 02:28:23,830 --> 02:28:21,120 and if you 3747 02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:23,840 if you do step forward you have to 3748 02:28:27,590 --> 02:28:25,120 somebody is going to be in the 3749 02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:27,600 background wanting to cause trouble and 3750 02:28:32,469 --> 02:28:29,359 those witnesses need to know that's what 3751 02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:34,790 look the activist in me has got to vote 3752 02:28:41,190 --> 02:28:38,800 push back at you uh jimmy look uh you 3753 02:28:43,030 --> 02:28:41,200 cannot compare the situation regarding 3754 02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:43,040 witnesses coming for these committees 3755 02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:46,560 and louis lozando louis lozando uh got 3756 02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:48,640 got out in front of the public on this 3757 02:28:54,550 --> 02:28:51,840 in uh in december of 2017 3758 02:28:57,110 --> 02:28:54,560 uh well before we the hearing process 3759 02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:57,120 was even a possibility and he has been 3760 02:29:02,070 --> 02:29:00,399 exposed for five years as the lead guy 3761 02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:02,080 and spokesperson 3762 02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:03,840 the witness situation is totally 3763 02:29:06,550 --> 02:29:05,120 different 3764 02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:06,560 the senate intel here's what's going to 3765 02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:08,640 happen 3766 02:29:11,429 --> 02:29:10,479 seeing that people 3767 02:29:13,349 --> 02:29:11,439 um 3768 02:29:15,830 --> 02:29:13,359 have never been afraid to talk about 3769 02:29:18,309 --> 02:29:15,840 this subject because they never cared 3770 02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:18,319 about ridicule or losing their job i'm 3771 02:29:22,870 --> 02:29:20,479 not saying that i'm not saying i mean 3772 02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:22,880 let's let's be very for real here a 3773 02:29:27,830 --> 02:29:25,840 career person in the military who is not 3774 02:29:30,469 --> 02:29:27,840 supposed to talk about this 3775 02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:30,479 historically on the record that is the 3776 02:29:33,349 --> 02:29:31,359 deal 3777 02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:33,359 now suddenly the page is being turned 3778 02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:36,640 here no they need reassurances uh 3779 02:29:38,710 --> 02:29:37,680 well 3780 02:29:40,230 --> 02:29:38,720 i'm going to reassure him as 3781 02:29:42,630 --> 02:29:40,240 everything's going to be fine 3782 02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:42,640 again here is what's going to happen 3783 02:29:45,910 --> 02:29:44,560 the senate or house intel committee is 3784 02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:45,920 going to announce they're going to hold 3785 02:29:49,190 --> 02:29:47,600 a substantial hearing on this and 3786 02:29:50,950 --> 02:29:49,200 they're going to be bringing witnesses 3787 02:29:53,590 --> 02:29:50,960 on the hill all right 3788 02:29:55,190 --> 02:29:53,600 to testify under oath before 3789 02:29:56,870 --> 02:29:55,200 the hearing process 3790 02:29:59,110 --> 02:29:56,880 this is not and there's going to be 3791 02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:59,120 millions of people watching lots of 3792 02:30:02,309 --> 02:30:01,200 journalists watching and there's not 3793 02:30:03,990 --> 02:30:02,319 they're not going to come up one at a 3794 02:30:05,030 --> 02:30:04,000 time there's going to be five six seven 3795 02:30:06,550 --> 02:30:05,040 eight 3796 02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:06,560 and they're going to take an oath and 3797 02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:08,800 they're going to tell what they know 3798 02:30:14,389 --> 02:30:11,200 and i'm going to make a very 3799 02:30:17,190 --> 02:30:14,399 highly confident prediction 3800 02:30:18,469 --> 02:30:17,200 they will become instantly heroes 3801 02:30:20,710 --> 02:30:18,479 worldwide 3802 02:30:22,309 --> 02:30:20,720 every single one of them and they're not 3803 02:30:24,630 --> 02:30:22,319 going to be hung out for two or three 3804 02:30:26,309 --> 02:30:24,640 years to be trolled by skeptics they're 3805 02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:26,319 going to be praised 3806 02:30:29,590 --> 02:30:27,680 and they're not going to have to break 3807 02:30:31,590 --> 02:30:29,600 any laws and they're going to be able to 3808 02:30:32,630 --> 02:30:31,600 say what they want inappropriately 3809 02:30:34,389 --> 02:30:32,640 because 3810 02:30:35,190 --> 02:30:34,399 at that moment that those hearings take 3811 02:30:38,070 --> 02:30:35,200 place 3812 02:30:40,870 --> 02:30:38,080 that is the moment in which the congress 3813 02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:40,880 and the dod and everybody else of any 3814 02:30:44,710 --> 02:30:42,160 significance 3815 02:30:47,190 --> 02:30:44,720 have essentially confirmed that it is 3816 02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:47,200 time for the truth to come out and then 3817 02:30:50,550 --> 02:30:48,399 they're going to be followed by 3818 02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:50,560 additional hearings and more witnesses 3819 02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:54,000 there will be 10 20 30 40 and so what is 3820 02:30:59,670 --> 02:30:55,600 some idiot 3821 02:31:01,750 --> 02:30:59,680 ass troller on on twitter going to do 3822 02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:01,760 right are they going to gang up on all 3823 02:31:06,550 --> 02:31:04,160 20 witnesses and go out and say oh these 3824 02:31:09,670 --> 02:31:06,560 people are making it up if they do that 3825 02:31:12,550 --> 02:31:09,680 the counter trader response will be 3826 02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:12,560 brutal they will be eviscerated right 3827 02:31:16,150 --> 02:31:14,080 they will be treated by the idiots and 3828 02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:16,160 fools that they are and so it's 3829 02:31:20,150 --> 02:31:18,880 important that we we it's at least 3830 02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:20,160 important for me 3831 02:31:23,429 --> 02:31:21,840 to make it clear 3832 02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:23,439 that the witnesses that are going to 3833 02:31:27,190 --> 02:31:25,600 participate in these hearings 3834 02:31:29,429 --> 02:31:27,200 even the ones that come over from the 3835 02:31:31,110 --> 02:31:29,439 dod like bray and moultrie 3836 02:31:31,910 --> 02:31:31,120 they are not going to have to go through 3837 02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:31,920 what 3838 02:31:39,910 --> 02:31:37,359 stephen schiff went through 30 years ago 3839 02:31:42,309 --> 02:31:39,920 or any of the ordeals that occurred 3840 02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:42,319 doing the truth embargo they are 3841 02:31:47,429 --> 02:31:44,960 participating not in the truth embargo 3842 02:31:49,670 --> 02:31:47,439 they are participating in ending it and 3843 02:31:54,230 --> 02:31:49,680 it's going to be seen that way and they 3844 02:31:56,790 --> 02:31:54,240 are going to be heroes and and and and 3845 02:32:00,389 --> 02:31:56,800 the chances of anything truly negative 3846 02:32:02,070 --> 02:32:00,399 coming out is is is remote now let me 3847 02:32:03,990 --> 02:32:02,080 follow up 3848 02:32:06,070 --> 02:32:04,000 well we're okay 3849 02:32:08,389 --> 02:32:06,080 let's save it for overtime we're 30 3850 02:32:10,710 --> 02:32:08,399 we're 30 seconds past the commercial so 3851 02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:10,720 let's get it sorry this one i hope you 3852 02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:14,240 don't lose any money steven bassett 3853 02:32:17,349 --> 02:32:15,760 we'll be right back after this short 3854 02:32:19,270 --> 02:32:17,359 break this is faded black i'm yours 3855 02:32:21,270 --> 02:32:19,280 jimmy church we're heading into overtime 3856 02:32:23,750 --> 02:32:21,280 with steve ambassador prg 3857 02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:23,760 night one of ufo hearing week here on 3858 02:32:29,610 --> 02:32:25,840 fade to black state right there we will 3859 02:32:38,790 --> 02:32:29,620 be right back after this short break 3860 02:32:44,550 --> 02:32:41,240 yes 3861 02:32:45,850 --> 02:32:44,560 [Music] 3862 02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:45,860 [Applause] 3863 02:32:57,510 --> 02:32:55,990 you're listening to jimmy church and 3864 02:33:02,469 --> 02:32:57,520 fade to black 3865 02:33:07,670 --> 02:33:04,870 hey what up y'all biblical fox here and 3866 02:33:11,990 --> 02:33:07,680 you are listening to my boy jimmy church 3867 02:33:19,110 --> 02:33:14,550 despite popular opinion 3868 02:33:24,389 --> 02:33:22,230 listening to smarter churchill 3869 02:33:26,469 --> 02:33:24,399 this is billy carson founder and ceo of 3870 02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:26,479 forbidden knowledge dot tv forbidden 3871 02:33:30,469 --> 02:33:28,800 knowledge dot tv is the fastest growing 3872 02:33:32,309 --> 02:33:30,479 and one of the most watched networks in 3873 02:33:34,070 --> 02:33:32,319 the world and i would like to personally 3874 02:33:36,870 --> 02:33:34,080 invite you to check out our 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not a lifestyle we chose we were 3932 02:36:24,450 --> 02:36:20,560 born this way this is kjcr jimmy church 3933 02:36:39,110 --> 02:36:35,240 [Music] 3934 02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:39,120 welcome back heading into overtime with 3935 02:36:44,710 --> 02:36:41,680 steven bassett of prg 3936 02:36:48,950 --> 02:36:44,720 big day last week on the 17th 3937 02:36:51,429 --> 02:36:48,960 we had a ufo hearing on capitol hill and 3938 02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:51,439 something that uh stephen has been 3939 02:36:54,389 --> 02:36:52,720 pushing for 3940 02:36:57,270 --> 02:36:54,399 uh for decades 3941 02:36:58,870 --> 02:36:57,280 and it finally happened but i want to 3942 02:37:01,270 --> 02:36:58,880 get back to 3943 02:37:03,830 --> 02:37:01,280 uh something that you said right before 3944 02:37:06,389 --> 02:37:03,840 the break stephen and i don't want this 3945 02:37:07,830 --> 02:37:06,399 to get away from me um and normally when 3946 02:37:09,590 --> 02:37:07,840 we get to overtime i like to have a 3947 02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:09,600 little bit of fun but 3948 02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:10,560 i 3949 02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:16,640 segment 3950 02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:20,080 where you said that the witnesses would 3951 02:37:25,990 --> 02:37:23,200 be coming from the military 3952 02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:26,000 uh is that what you expect or shouldn't 3953 02:37:29,910 --> 02:37:27,760 we be hearing 3954 02:37:32,309 --> 02:37:29,920 from others too as well outside of the 3955 02:37:34,550 --> 02:37:32,319 middle of japan airlines bring those 3956 02:37:36,790 --> 02:37:34,560 pilots up you know let's bring some 3957 02:37:38,950 --> 02:37:36,800 other witnesses forward that have seen 3958 02:37:42,790 --> 02:37:38,960 some pretty extraordinary things with 3959 02:37:45,110 --> 02:37:42,800 with video and uh and witnesses uh to 3960 02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:45,120 back these things up 3961 02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:47,280 sure we should be hearing from a huge 3962 02:37:52,469 --> 02:37:49,680 range of people and in time we will but 3963 02:37:54,389 --> 02:37:52,479 most of uh of those people will be 3964 02:37:56,230 --> 02:37:54,399 turning up after disclosure in the 3965 02:37:58,950 --> 02:37:56,240 hearings that follow disclosure itself 3966 02:38:01,830 --> 02:37:58,960 and there will be plenty of those 3967 02:38:03,110 --> 02:38:01,840 right now the remember as i told you 3968 02:38:05,349 --> 02:38:03,120 what's going on now it's not about 3969 02:38:07,910 --> 02:38:05,359 discovery it's not about proving the e.t 3970 02:38:09,910 --> 02:38:07,920 presence by holding hearings it's a 3971 02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:09,920 public relations process designed to get 3972 02:38:14,070 --> 02:38:11,520 out from under this truth embargo with a 3973 02:38:15,910 --> 02:38:14,080 minimum amount of damage all right so 3974 02:38:18,389 --> 02:38:15,920 with respect to that 3975 02:38:20,389 --> 02:38:18,399 uh a couple of things that are that 3976 02:38:23,429 --> 02:38:20,399 service that goal 3977 02:38:26,150 --> 02:38:23,439 is one the platform for the hearings 3978 02:38:28,309 --> 02:38:26,160 needs to be politically safe it needs to 3979 02:38:31,110 --> 02:38:28,319 be something that any member of congress 3980 02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:31,120 would have no problem addressing and 3981 02:38:35,830 --> 02:38:33,040 guess what that platform is it is the 3982 02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:35,840 potential national security threat of 3983 02:38:39,990 --> 02:38:37,760 these things flying around and not 3984 02:38:41,910 --> 02:38:40,000 knowing supposedly what they are 3985 02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:41,920 national security is very safe so that's 3986 02:38:46,309 --> 02:38:44,240 part of it right but whether one thinks 3987 02:38:48,389 --> 02:38:46,319 they're a threat or not doesn't matter 3988 02:38:50,630 --> 02:38:48,399 and then the second thing is this 3989 02:38:54,070 --> 02:38:50,640 these hearings need to be 3990 02:38:56,230 --> 02:38:54,080 uh is as well received as possible 3991 02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:56,240 and they need to be as um how would you 3992 02:39:03,030 --> 02:38:58,560 say impactful as possible 3993 02:39:04,790 --> 02:39:03,040 the absolute best witnesses are military 3994 02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:04,800 we've already seen examples of that 3995 02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:07,840 civilian pilot sees something yeah okay 3996 02:39:11,670 --> 02:39:09,840 fine maybe you had too much to drink 3997 02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:11,680 that day shouldn't have been flying but 3998 02:39:57,510 --> 02:39:12,640 a 3999 02:39:59,830 --> 02:39:57,520 defense 4000 02:40:02,790 --> 02:39:59,840 of the country they are you know 4001 02:40:05,030 --> 02:40:02,800 righteous men and women 4002 02:40:07,030 --> 02:40:05,040 and then they have to take another oath 4003 02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:07,040 all right to tell the truth in front of 4004 02:40:11,590 --> 02:40:09,200 the committee members 4005 02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:11,600 what what about halt penniston and 4006 02:40:17,349 --> 02:40:13,600 burrows 4007 02:40:18,950 --> 02:40:17,359 they they are put they are military and 4008 02:40:20,469 --> 02:40:18,960 they could vary when i say military 4009 02:40:21,830 --> 02:40:20,479 witnesses i mean 4010 02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:21,840 they could be retired they could be 4011 02:40:25,990 --> 02:40:24,240 active but if they had 4012 02:40:28,389 --> 02:40:26,000 what they're talking about is connected 4013 02:40:29,910 --> 02:40:28,399 to their military service all right and 4014 02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:29,920 halt peniston and all those yeah they're 4015 02:40:33,590 --> 02:40:31,200 potential witnesses particularly in the 4016 02:40:34,790 --> 02:40:33,600 nuclear weapons tampering area so when 4017 02:40:37,590 --> 02:40:34,800 these 4018 02:40:38,870 --> 02:40:37,600 men and possibly some women 4019 02:40:41,750 --> 02:40:38,880 actually start 4020 02:40:43,990 --> 02:40:41,760 telling what they know to congress with 4021 02:40:47,030 --> 02:40:44,000 millions of people watching the power is 4022 02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:47,040 triple uh what uh system civilians up 4023 02:40:51,110 --> 02:40:49,120 there going saying you know well i was i 4024 02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:51,120 was an airline pilot and i saw this that 4025 02:40:55,670 --> 02:40:53,279 doesn't mean that the civilian testimony 4026 02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:55,680 isn't important it means that you're 4027 02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:57,279 going to do these hearings you want the 4028 02:41:01,830 --> 02:40:59,600 most powerful testimony possible you 4029 02:41:03,590 --> 02:41:01,840 want as few distractions as possible you 4030 02:41:06,550 --> 02:41:03,600 don't want to get off on the other 20 or 4031 02:41:07,910 --> 02:41:06,560 30 aspects of the e.t reality right the 4032 02:41:11,110 --> 02:41:07,920 point of these hearings is not to 4033 02:41:14,150 --> 02:41:11,120 somehow finally give everybody the truth 4034 02:41:16,870 --> 02:41:14,160 it's to get to disclosure so then after 4035 02:41:20,070 --> 02:41:16,880 disclosure we can now open the doors to 4036 02:41:22,070 --> 02:41:20,080 every aspect of this issue that people 4037 02:41:23,830 --> 02:41:22,080 want to learn about and everything that 4038 02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:23,840 should be appropriately 4039 02:41:27,030 --> 02:41:25,600 put before a hearing in congress will do 4040 02:41:29,030 --> 02:41:27,040 so and that is when i think the 4041 02:41:30,710 --> 02:41:29,040 civilians are going to come forward 4042 02:41:33,190 --> 02:41:30,720 you're going to see maybe even people 4043 02:41:35,190 --> 02:41:33,200 like me called up to the hill you know 4044 02:41:37,190 --> 02:41:35,200 my phone number hasn't changed in 26 4045 02:41:39,590 --> 02:41:37,200 years and my office is two blocks from 4046 02:41:40,710 --> 02:41:39,600 the white house but let me now get to 4047 02:41:42,389 --> 02:41:40,720 something very important we were 4048 02:41:43,190 --> 02:41:42,399 touching on that definitely needs to be 4049 02:41:44,790 --> 02:41:43,200 uh 4050 02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:44,800 expanded 4051 02:41:49,110 --> 02:41:47,120 for years you keep hearing about amnesty 4052 02:41:51,110 --> 02:41:49,120 and truth and reconciliation with 4053 02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:51,120 respect to witnesses on the subject all 4054 02:41:54,230 --> 02:41:52,240 right and there's a lot of 4055 02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:54,240 misunderstanding about that 4056 02:42:00,710 --> 02:41:57,120 let's first talk about amnesty why would 4057 02:42:01,910 --> 02:42:00,720 a witness uh coming forward need amnesty 4058 02:42:03,990 --> 02:42:01,920 all right 4059 02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:04,000 here is the situation where that would 4060 02:42:07,429 --> 02:42:05,600 probably be appropriate 4061 02:42:09,349 --> 02:42:07,439 the situation would be this the congress 4062 02:42:11,190 --> 02:42:09,359 has gotten onto this issue they're 4063 02:42:13,429 --> 02:42:11,200 they're they're moving forward and the 4064 02:42:14,309 --> 02:42:13,439 dod wants nothing to do with it 4065 02:42:16,469 --> 02:42:14,319 you're not seeing the kind of 4066 02:42:18,950 --> 02:42:16,479 cooperation now you're literally having 4067 02:42:20,469 --> 02:42:18,960 to drag the dod into this you know when 4068 02:42:21,830 --> 02:42:20,479 they're resisting it and making 4069 02:42:23,190 --> 02:42:21,840 statements like what the hell is going 4070 02:42:25,429 --> 02:42:23,200 on and there's really kind of a thing 4071 02:42:27,910 --> 02:42:25,439 going on but yet the congress goes head 4072 02:42:31,750 --> 02:42:27,920 with the hearings and you've got former 4073 02:42:33,510 --> 02:42:31,760 members of our military or even civilian 4074 02:42:35,590 --> 02:42:33,520 agency people right the military 4075 02:42:36,870 --> 02:42:35,600 intelligence complex and they're gonna 4076 02:42:38,469 --> 02:42:36,880 they've been called to come up on the 4077 02:42:40,550 --> 02:42:38,479 hill and testify 4078 02:42:41,830 --> 02:42:40,560 and yet they know that the military 4079 02:42:43,590 --> 02:42:41,840 intelligence con 4080 02:42:45,590 --> 02:42:43,600 complex including the dod they're not 4081 02:42:47,590 --> 02:42:45,600 happy about this at all 4082 02:42:49,269 --> 02:42:47,600 and so they are really worried that 4083 02:42:51,590 --> 02:42:49,279 they're going to testify 4084 02:42:53,670 --> 02:42:51,600 and then the dod is going to come at 4085 02:42:55,429 --> 02:42:53,680 them in some way 4086 02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:55,439 if that were the circumstance and it 4087 02:42:58,070 --> 02:42:56,560 isn't 4088 02:43:01,269 --> 02:42:58,080 then it would be appropriate for the 4089 02:43:03,349 --> 02:43:01,279 congress to give these witnesses amnesty 4090 02:43:05,429 --> 02:43:03,359 so that there could be no consequences 4091 02:43:06,870 --> 02:43:05,439 coming at them from their former 4092 02:43:09,510 --> 02:43:06,880 employee whether it be the service or 4093 02:43:11,750 --> 02:43:09,520 the dod or the ca or anything else and 4094 02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:11,760 thus protect them in that way that is 4095 02:43:18,070 --> 02:43:15,520 not needed because the cia jim semivan 4096 02:43:18,870 --> 02:43:18,080 herman khan the dod 4097 02:43:21,349 --> 02:43:18,880 right 4098 02:43:23,349 --> 02:43:21,359 you know mellon uh ellis 4099 02:43:25,190 --> 02:43:23,359 they're they're basically they basically 4100 02:43:27,590 --> 02:43:25,200 said yeah we're we know what's coming 4101 02:43:30,070 --> 02:43:27,600 we're participating in this so let's now 4102 02:43:31,110 --> 02:43:30,080 talk about truth and reconciliation all 4103 02:43:33,670 --> 02:43:31,120 right 4104 02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:33,680 there's really only one basis why truth 4105 02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:36,080 and reconciliation might be required and 4106 02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:37,439 it would be a 4107 02:43:40,389 --> 02:43:39,600 law passed by the government 4108 02:43:43,030 --> 02:43:40,399 and 4109 02:43:44,870 --> 02:43:43,040 i think this could happen it will be 4110 02:43:46,389 --> 02:43:44,880 post-disclosure i assure you not 4111 02:43:48,469 --> 02:43:46,399 pre-disclosure 4112 02:43:49,830 --> 02:43:48,479 but post-disclosure as we start digging 4113 02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:49,840 deeper and more witnesses are coming 4114 02:43:53,269 --> 02:43:51,600 forward and more things are known and 4115 02:43:54,710 --> 02:43:53,279 documents are coming out 4116 02:43:56,309 --> 02:43:54,720 it is possible 4117 02:43:57,830 --> 02:43:56,319 that there will be some individuals 4118 02:43:59,510 --> 02:43:57,840 still alive 4119 02:44:03,110 --> 02:43:59,520 who were involved in aspects of the 4120 02:44:05,349 --> 02:44:03,120 truth embargo that were say unsavory 4121 02:44:07,830 --> 02:44:05,359 may be clearly illegal 4122 02:44:10,230 --> 02:44:07,840 and perhaps not supportable purely on a 4123 02:44:12,469 --> 02:44:10,240 national security basis and yet we want 4124 02:44:15,670 --> 02:44:12,479 to know what they know we want to know 4125 02:44:18,150 --> 02:44:15,680 what they did because really frankly 4126 02:44:20,950 --> 02:44:18,160 ultimately we want to know everything 4127 02:44:22,950 --> 02:44:20,960 about this issue about uaps about 4128 02:44:25,510 --> 02:44:22,960 everything the government knows did 4129 02:44:28,070 --> 02:44:25,520 going back to 1947 or earlier if 4130 02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:28,080 necessary there is nothing ultimately 4131 02:44:32,710 --> 02:44:29,920 that should be withheld from the world 4132 02:44:34,469 --> 02:44:32,720 nothing about this subject but again 4133 02:44:36,070 --> 02:44:34,479 there could be some things very awkward 4134 02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:36,080 and tough like that 4135 02:44:40,070 --> 02:44:38,080 in that circumstance and i i've said 4136 02:44:42,550 --> 02:44:40,080 many times i was fully supported they 4137 02:44:44,389 --> 02:44:42,560 would pass a reconciliation act meaning 4138 02:44:47,429 --> 02:44:44,399 that if you were involved in something 4139 02:44:48,389 --> 02:44:47,439 that has potential legal implications 4140 02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:48,399 for you 4141 02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:50,479 if you come forward this is exactly what 4142 02:44:53,990 --> 02:44:52,000 happened with the 4143 02:44:57,190 --> 02:44:54,000 south africa if you come forward and 4144 02:44:59,830 --> 02:44:57,200 give us full details either in open or 4145 02:45:01,510 --> 02:44:59,840 classified session about exactly what 4146 02:45:04,389 --> 02:45:01,520 happened and what you did you will 4147 02:45:07,910 --> 02:45:04,399 suffer no consequences all right now you 4148 02:45:10,070 --> 02:45:07,920 see that's a fairly narrow area and the 4149 02:45:12,469 --> 02:45:10,080 amnesty issue as far as i'm concerned is 4150 02:45:14,950 --> 02:45:12,479 not even needed now and so i'm i'm 4151 02:45:18,070 --> 02:45:14,960 trying to say that why i do not want 4152 02:45:20,670 --> 02:45:18,080 anybody out there who may end up coming 4153 02:45:24,070 --> 02:45:20,680 forward on this issue to have a 4154 02:45:26,870 --> 02:45:24,080 exaggerated understanding of risks that 4155 02:45:28,630 --> 02:45:26,880 they may be facing that aren't there 4156 02:45:30,630 --> 02:45:28,640 and and and the idea that maybe some 4157 02:45:32,389 --> 02:45:30,640 nasty tweets will be made in the in the 4158 02:45:34,389 --> 02:45:32,399 weeks or two following 4159 02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:34,399 these are men and women that i'm afraid 4160 02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:35,920 are that that not afraid these are men 4161 02:45:39,349 --> 02:45:37,760 and women that are pretty tough pretty 4162 02:45:41,830 --> 02:45:39,359 smart they've been around they can 4163 02:45:42,950 --> 02:45:41,840 handle that what lou has gone through is 4164 02:45:46,150 --> 02:45:42,960 unique 4165 02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:46,160 he is the first person working from from 4166 02:45:50,389 --> 02:45:48,640 the military intelligence community 4167 02:45:53,910 --> 02:45:50,399 that has come out in this 4168 02:45:55,910 --> 02:45:53,920 forward-looking forward facing situation 4169 02:45:58,230 --> 02:45:55,920 and said i'm going to answer your 4170 02:46:01,110 --> 02:45:58,240 questions and i'm going to do 75 4171 02:46:01,990 --> 02:46:01,120 podcasts and interviews even cnn because 4172 02:46:03,670 --> 02:46:02,000 this 4173 02:46:05,590 --> 02:46:03,680 somebody needs to do that and there's 4174 02:46:07,030 --> 02:46:05,600 something going on and i i want you to 4175 02:46:09,110 --> 02:46:07,040 understand what's happening he's the 4176 02:46:11,030 --> 02:46:09,120 first person to ever do that and i'm 4177 02:46:13,349 --> 02:46:11,040 pretty sure when this thing all came 4178 02:46:16,150 --> 02:46:13,359 together uh prior to the announcement of 4179 02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:16,160 the of the to the stars academy that no 4180 02:46:18,870 --> 02:46:17,040 one 4181 02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:18,880 thought that it was going to take five 4182 02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:20,560 years i think they thought we're going 4183 02:46:24,630 --> 02:46:22,720 to announce the to the stars academy new 4184 02:46:26,389 --> 02:46:24,640 york times is going to get some articles 4185 02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:26,399 things are going to be rolling and in a 4186 02:46:29,590 --> 02:46:28,240 favorable administration 4187 02:46:30,950 --> 02:46:29,600 we're going to move aggressively to get 4188 02:46:33,349 --> 02:46:30,960 hearings and the whole damn thing would 4189 02:46:35,910 --> 02:46:33,359 be done in 12 months it didn't work that 4190 02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:35,920 way and so he has had to hang himself 4191 02:46:42,150 --> 02:46:39,439 out for five years and that is not what 4192 02:46:44,469 --> 02:46:42,160 the witnesses are going to face 4193 02:46:45,670 --> 02:46:44,479 well uh you have 4194 02:46:46,990 --> 02:46:45,680 uh 4195 02:46:57,510 --> 02:46:47,000 the 4196 02:46:59,670 --> 02:46:57,520 senate intelligence committee is trying 4197 02:47:01,750 --> 02:46:59,680 to extract information out of them and 4198 02:47:03,190 --> 02:47:01,760 and see what they have and they're not 4199 02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:03,200 getting it and they're certainly not 4200 02:47:05,830 --> 02:47:04,720 getting it from the air force wait a 4201 02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:05,840 minute wait what are you what are you 4202 02:47:10,870 --> 02:47:08,800 referring to i'm referring to anything 4203 02:47:12,870 --> 02:47:10,880 with the uap task force and the senate 4204 02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:12,880 intelligence committee and trying to get 4205 02:47:17,670 --> 02:47:16,080 cooperation from the agencies and and 4206 02:47:19,429 --> 02:47:17,680 every other branch of the military the 4207 02:47:20,630 --> 02:47:19,439 only branch of the military that seems 4208 02:47:22,550 --> 02:47:20,640 to be some 4209 02:47:24,309 --> 02:47:22,560 sort of cooperation with right now is 4210 02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:24,319 the united states navy 4211 02:47:28,070 --> 02:47:25,920 i'll say this 4212 02:47:31,670 --> 02:47:28,080 anybody that uh 4213 02:47:33,670 --> 02:47:31,680 would cooperate and and seem to be 4214 02:47:36,309 --> 02:47:33,680 moving forward 4215 02:47:39,429 --> 02:47:36,319 when it comes to an intelligence agency 4216 02:47:41,190 --> 02:47:39,439 is in fear of no more promotions uh 4217 02:47:44,389 --> 02:47:41,200 being pulled out of the field given a 4218 02:47:46,710 --> 02:47:44,399 desk job early retirement that to say 4219 02:47:48,790 --> 02:47:46,720 that there isn't any possibility of any 4220 02:47:50,950 --> 02:47:48,800 of that happening that doesn't matter 4221 02:47:52,230 --> 02:47:50,960 this is what they think 4222 02:47:56,550 --> 02:47:52,240 this is 4223 02:47:58,230 --> 02:47:56,560 isn't any cooperation 4224 02:48:01,510 --> 02:47:58,240 you do know 4225 02:48:04,230 --> 02:48:01,520 that there was a chat room on a secure 4226 02:48:06,230 --> 02:48:04,240 network inside of the pentagon 4227 02:48:09,510 --> 02:48:06,240 for all of the branches of the military 4228 02:48:11,990 --> 02:48:09,520 to go hang out and talk about uaps and 4229 02:48:14,309 --> 02:48:12,000 and current events and the air force 4230 02:48:16,469 --> 02:48:14,319 came down on their own personnel and 4231 02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:16,479 said you will not 4232 02:48:22,710 --> 02:48:19,520 go in that chat room you will not talk 4233 02:48:25,349 --> 02:48:22,720 about uaps 4234 02:48:27,190 --> 02:48:25,359 this is last year okay okay the point 4235 02:48:29,510 --> 02:48:27,200 the point being with all of that that's 4236 02:48:30,870 --> 02:48:29,520 exactly they didn't go back into that 4237 02:48:31,750 --> 02:48:30,880 chat room 4238 02:48:33,750 --> 02:48:31,760 why 4239 02:48:35,269 --> 02:48:33,760 they they don't want they don't want to 4240 02:48:38,309 --> 02:48:35,279 be reprimanded they don't want to be 4241 02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:38,319 caught and this is exactly what i'm 4242 02:48:43,510 --> 02:48:40,640 talking about here so yes people do 4243 02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:43,520 worry about this and whether it happens 4244 02:48:47,750 --> 02:48:45,359 or not doesn't matter 4245 02:48:50,230 --> 02:48:47,760 it's the frame of mind why people are 4246 02:48:52,070 --> 02:48:50,240 not coming forward why do we not have 4247 02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:52,080 stephen right now 4248 02:48:57,750 --> 02:48:55,600 a hundred military pilots on the record 4249 02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:57,760 we've got four 4250 02:49:01,030 --> 02:48:58,560 four 4251 02:49:02,870 --> 02:49:01,040 in five years 4252 02:49:03,910 --> 02:49:02,880 what they're the only ones to have ever 4253 02:49:07,750 --> 02:49:03,920 seen 4254 02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:07,760 the entire flotilla of the nimitz battle 4255 02:49:13,190 --> 02:49:10,240 group right and we've got a handful of 4256 02:49:15,830 --> 02:49:13,200 people coming forward where's the rear 4257 02:49:17,830 --> 02:49:15,840 admiral of that battle group why isn't 4258 02:49:20,630 --> 02:49:17,840 he on the record right now 4259 02:49:21,990 --> 02:49:20,640 why okay why why why you tell me well 4260 02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,000 that's because 4261 02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:24,720 they don't want anything to happen to 4262 02:49:31,429 --> 02:49:28,160 them and that is their retirement day 4263 02:49:34,070 --> 02:49:31,439 that is reputation that is a tax and 4264 02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:34,080 certainly uh the the future of your 4265 02:49:38,550 --> 02:49:36,479 career and so yeah burchette is 4266 02:49:40,870 --> 02:49:38,560 absolutely right we need them to come 4267 02:49:44,070 --> 02:49:40,880 forward and they need to know that we 4268 02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:44,080 have their backs and yes so it does need 4269 02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:46,000 to stay public 4270 02:49:49,990 --> 02:49:46,960 first 4271 02:49:51,190 --> 02:49:50,000 okay look this is this is good you and i 4272 02:49:52,790 --> 02:49:51,200 you've got a lot of knowledge i got a 4273 02:49:54,469 --> 02:49:52,800 lot of knowledge so you know and and i 4274 02:49:56,630 --> 02:49:54,479 think people are going to learn from 4275 02:49:59,030 --> 02:49:56,640 these exchanges first of all just 4276 02:50:00,469 --> 02:49:59,040 because other agencies have not jumped 4277 02:50:02,389 --> 02:50:00,479 into this doesn't mean that they're 4278 02:50:03,670 --> 02:50:02,399 opposed to it or doing anything to 4279 02:50:04,469 --> 02:50:03,680 suppress it 4280 02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:04,479 uh 4281 02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:05,359 this 4282 02:50:11,349 --> 02:50:09,040 we we don't need a hundred pilots uh 4283 02:50:13,510 --> 02:50:11,359 or anything like that we need a certain 4284 02:50:15,110 --> 02:50:13,520 number of witnesses representative some 4285 02:50:16,630 --> 02:50:15,120 of which are already out there that's 4286 02:50:18,309 --> 02:50:16,640 more than enough we don't need a hundred 4287 02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:18,319 they make they may come forward after 4288 02:50:23,110 --> 02:50:20,720 disclosure the fact that the air force 4289 02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:23,120 is not engaged this just means that it's 4290 02:50:27,190 --> 02:50:24,880 not appropriate yet for them to do it 4291 02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:27,200 same thing for other agencies but one 4292 02:50:30,469 --> 02:50:29,200 thing we haven't seen 4293 02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:30,479 and uh 4294 02:50:34,469 --> 02:50:32,960 and i'll i note this the fact that 4295 02:50:36,469 --> 02:50:34,479 they're kind of shutting you know they 4296 02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:36,479 did they didn't want that chat room to 4297 02:50:42,150 --> 02:50:40,160 get to to to to be happening uh i would 4298 02:50:44,950 --> 02:50:42,160 say the reason for that particularly if 4299 02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:44,960 it was last year is not because oh uh 4300 02:50:49,269 --> 02:50:47,120 you know we're trying to hold this thing 4301 02:50:51,269 --> 02:50:49,279 down it's not gonna happen get no it's 4302 02:50:53,190 --> 02:50:51,279 just that this process is going on and 4303 02:50:54,790 --> 02:50:53,200 they really don't need that happening 4304 02:50:57,750 --> 02:50:54,800 right in other words 4305 02:50:59,670 --> 02:50:57,760 i keep getting back to the same thing 4306 02:51:01,910 --> 02:50:59,680 what is happening now is not about 4307 02:51:03,429 --> 02:51:01,920 discovery it's not about okay we've got 4308 02:51:05,429 --> 02:51:03,439 to finally confirm this we need a 4309 02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:05,439 hundred witnesses we need the agencies 4310 02:51:09,269 --> 02:51:07,439 to open up their files and it all come 4311 02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:09,279 out and we'll learn the truth they 4312 02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:11,200 already know the truth 4313 02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:13,200 in order for us to get the truth to get 4314 02:51:17,110 --> 02:51:15,200 the extensive truth we have got to get 4315 02:51:19,349 --> 02:51:17,120 over the barrier of disclosure we have 4316 02:51:21,910 --> 02:51:19,359 to end the truth embargo and as i've 4317 02:51:25,590 --> 02:51:21,920 said that is not a simple thing to do 4318 02:51:27,429 --> 02:51:25,600 burchette can't do it schiff can't do it 4319 02:51:29,990 --> 02:51:27,439 melon can't do it elizondo can't do it 4320 02:51:31,349 --> 02:51:30,000 but what they can do is be part of and 4321 02:51:33,429 --> 02:51:31,359 facilitate 4322 02:51:36,630 --> 02:51:33,439 the process of the hearings which it 4323 02:51:38,790 --> 02:51:36,640 sets the stage for disclosure and so it 4324 02:51:41,030 --> 02:51:38,800 is the public relations effort this 4325 02:51:44,150 --> 02:51:41,040 effort that matters now 4326 02:51:46,230 --> 02:51:44,160 okay we're trying to get it done so that 4327 02:51:49,510 --> 02:51:46,240 all of these other witnesses can come 4328 02:51:51,590 --> 02:51:49,520 forward in droves without any concern at 4329 02:51:53,349 --> 02:51:51,600 all because 4330 02:51:55,269 --> 02:51:53,359 the cat's out of the bag the horses are 4331 02:51:57,510 --> 02:51:55,279 out of the barn the chickens have 4332 02:51:59,510 --> 02:51:57,520 come home to roost whatever the hell and 4333 02:52:02,230 --> 02:51:59,520 and we're in the post-disclosure world 4334 02:52:04,870 --> 02:52:02,240 and so again i understand why people 4335 02:52:07,269 --> 02:52:04,880 after all of these years want to get 4336 02:52:09,750 --> 02:52:07,279 right there but they're not thinking 4337 02:52:12,309 --> 02:52:09,760 about the politics it's very much like 4338 02:52:14,389 --> 02:52:12,319 negotiations between you know the united 4339 02:52:15,990 --> 02:52:14,399 states and the soviet union you've got 4340 02:52:17,110 --> 02:52:16,000 these diplomats they get together and 4341 02:52:18,790 --> 02:52:17,120 they're trying to get a treaty or 4342 02:52:20,150 --> 02:52:18,800 something all right 4343 02:52:22,469 --> 02:52:20,160 and people say why don't you just get 4344 02:52:24,950 --> 02:52:22,479 just to say hey look no more weapons 4345 02:52:26,870 --> 02:52:24,960 let's just non-proliferation oh no they 4346 02:52:28,550 --> 02:52:26,880 gotta go back and forth and go through 4347 02:52:31,110 --> 02:52:28,560 all these protocols they have to lie to 4348 02:52:33,910 --> 02:52:31,120 each other like crazy trying to get an 4349 02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:33,920 outcome that is in the best interest of 4350 02:52:39,349 --> 02:52:36,800 both parties now a lot of people think 4351 02:52:40,710 --> 02:52:39,359 diplomacy is bs and it's all nonsense 4352 02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:40,720 and why don't you just sit down and do 4353 02:52:43,910 --> 02:52:43,040 it hey this is the real world it is what 4354 02:52:46,870 --> 02:52:43,920 it is 4355 02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:46,880 this issue has so much implications for 4356 02:52:52,309 --> 02:52:49,120 every member of congress every major 4357 02:52:54,790 --> 02:52:52,319 industry every former member that served 4358 02:52:56,230 --> 02:52:54,800 in the military there are so many 4359 02:52:58,230 --> 02:52:56,240 peoples whose lives are going to be 4360 02:53:01,110 --> 02:52:58,240 affected that the idea that you just 4361 02:53:02,870 --> 02:53:01,120 slam dunk it uh-uh this is way too big 4362 02:53:05,030 --> 02:53:02,880 for that you've got to go through a 4363 02:53:07,269 --> 02:53:05,040 process that's responsible the only 4364 02:53:09,110 --> 02:53:07,279 thing that's really irritating right now 4365 02:53:11,349 --> 02:53:09,120 is that this should have happened 30 4366 02:53:13,510 --> 02:53:11,359 years ago and the reason why that's 4367 02:53:15,910 --> 02:53:13,520 irritating is that i believe that it 4368 02:53:17,670 --> 02:53:15,920 happened 30 years ago a lot of the wars 4369 02:53:19,990 --> 02:53:17,680 that have taken place since then might 4370 02:53:21,910 --> 02:53:20,000 not have happened a lot of a lot of 4371 02:53:23,830 --> 02:53:21,920 other unpleasant things that have taken 4372 02:53:26,230 --> 02:53:23,840 place might not have happened because in 4373 02:53:28,070 --> 02:53:26,240 the post-disclosure world i think the 4374 02:53:30,550 --> 02:53:28,080 world view changes and the implications 4375 02:53:32,710 --> 02:53:30,560 of it would have been such that 4376 02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:32,720 let's have a war in iraq let's just go 4377 02:53:35,830 --> 02:53:34,240 over there for the hell of it let's just 4378 02:53:37,910 --> 02:53:35,840 lie about and get in there and change 4379 02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:37,920 the government meanwhile let's really go 4380 02:53:40,389 --> 02:53:38,720 into 4381 02:53:42,950 --> 02:53:40,399 afghanistan and kick the hell out of 4382 02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:42,960 them because somebody that hurt us 4383 02:53:46,070 --> 02:53:44,640 operated from there once and by the way 4384 02:53:48,230 --> 02:53:46,080 let's go into syria let's go into 4385 02:53:50,230 --> 02:53:48,240 liberia let's you know putin is over 4386 02:53:52,550 --> 02:53:50,240 there saying yeah let me go into georgia 4387 02:53:55,030 --> 02:53:52,560 let me go into chech now blow it to hell 4388 02:53:57,670 --> 02:53:55,040 all of this has happened 4389 02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:57,680 since we had the moment to possibly get 4390 02:54:02,389 --> 02:53:59,760 those hearings going in the 1990s and 4391 02:54:05,750 --> 02:54:02,399 end this embargo all right that's what 4392 02:54:07,910 --> 02:54:05,760 irritates me and now 30 years later we 4393 02:54:10,070 --> 02:54:07,920 still haven't gotten disclosure and now 4394 02:54:11,990 --> 02:54:10,080 we have a war where women and children 4395 02:54:13,429 --> 02:54:12,000 are being slaughtered every day on 4396 02:54:15,510 --> 02:54:13,439 camera with 4397 02:54:17,190 --> 02:54:15,520 millions of cell phones paying attention 4398 02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:17,200 and all the reporters there so we can 4399 02:54:21,349 --> 02:54:19,439 see the bodies in the street and you've 4400 02:54:24,630 --> 02:54:21,359 got lavrov and you've got putin and 4401 02:54:26,309 --> 02:54:24,640 others rattling the nuclear sabers yeah 4402 02:54:27,750 --> 02:54:26,319 we could use it we could use it tomorrow 4403 02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:27,760 and our own people are going for yeah 4404 02:54:31,750 --> 02:54:29,439 they could meanwhile they're testing 4405 02:54:33,590 --> 02:54:31,760 hypersonic missiles and even using those 4406 02:54:34,389 --> 02:54:33,600 hypersonic missiles to attack the 4407 02:54:36,469 --> 02:54:34,399 ukraine 4408 02:54:38,710 --> 02:54:36,479 which if you put missiles on those 4409 02:54:41,110 --> 02:54:38,720 hypersonics there is nothing we can do 4410 02:54:44,469 --> 02:54:41,120 to stop them and they could land in new 4411 02:54:47,510 --> 02:54:44,479 york in about a minute okay this is 4412 02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:47,520 where we are now that's what irritates 4413 02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:50,000 me about it but you know that's the way 4414 02:54:54,309 --> 02:54:52,720 it worked out i can't change history 4415 02:54:55,750 --> 02:54:54,319 what i can do 4416 02:54:58,710 --> 02:54:55,760 is do what i can 4417 02:55:02,389 --> 02:54:58,720 to see to it that we don't miss this 4418 02:55:05,830 --> 02:55:02,399 opportunity this time we absolutely 4419 02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:05,840 must get disclosure now and by now 4420 02:55:09,990 --> 02:55:07,680 hopefully i mean 4421 02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:10,000 before the end of summer before the 4422 02:55:14,469 --> 02:55:11,279 elections 4423 02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:14,479 while we hope that we can continue to 4424 02:55:19,190 --> 02:55:17,279 work this whole ukraine thing and not go 4425 02:55:20,790 --> 02:55:19,200 too far okay 4426 02:55:22,469 --> 02:55:20,800 but i'm telling you 4427 02:55:24,550 --> 02:55:22,479 um you know i have a meme out there 4428 02:55:26,870 --> 02:55:24,560 jimmy you know all about it it's the two 4429 02:55:28,950 --> 02:55:26,880 clocks the paradigm clock which is 4430 02:55:30,309 --> 02:55:28,960 disclosure at midnight and the doomsday 4431 02:55:32,309 --> 02:55:30,319 clock which is nuclear or more at 4432 02:55:34,150 --> 02:55:32,319 midnight and we have those two clocks 4433 02:55:35,990 --> 02:55:34,160 have been competing to see which come 4434 02:55:37,670 --> 02:55:36,000 which comes to midnight first for some 4435 02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:37,680 time and right now 4436 02:55:42,070 --> 02:55:39,520 it looks like the doomsday clock is kind 4437 02:55:45,110 --> 02:55:42,080 of in the lead and to give you another 4438 02:55:46,950 --> 02:55:45,120 perfect example of how vulnerable we are 4439 02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:46,960 now how how 4440 02:55:50,550 --> 02:55:49,040 the risk of nuclear war is so high and 4441 02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:50,560 there are people that are saying this 4442 02:55:54,150 --> 02:55:52,240 the doomsday clock is the closest ever 4443 02:55:55,830 --> 02:55:54,160 been to midnight 100 seconds and you've 4444 02:55:58,150 --> 02:55:55,840 got others out there talking about we 4445 02:56:00,710 --> 02:55:58,160 could have an emp attack tomorrow and if 4446 02:56:02,389 --> 02:56:00,720 an emt emp attack occurs in the united 4447 02:56:04,389 --> 02:56:02,399 states half the population will be dead 4448 02:56:06,950 --> 02:56:04,399 in a year 4449 02:56:08,469 --> 02:56:06,960 but peyton biden goes over japan or goes 4450 02:56:10,710 --> 02:56:08,479 over to korea 4451 02:56:13,590 --> 02:56:10,720 and not surprisingly 4452 02:56:15,830 --> 02:56:13,600 he's asked a question about taiwan 4453 02:56:17,830 --> 02:56:15,840 and not surprisingly china has been 4454 02:56:19,830 --> 02:56:17,840 licking their lips over taiwan lately 4455 02:56:21,990 --> 02:56:19,840 because well it looks like good old 4456 02:56:24,230 --> 02:56:22,000 vladimir is getting away with taking a 4457 02:56:26,469 --> 02:56:24,240 massive chunk out of the ukraine and 4458 02:56:27,269 --> 02:56:26,479 killing a lot of people in the process 4459 02:56:30,389 --> 02:56:27,279 okay 4460 02:56:31,590 --> 02:56:30,399 and so biden takes this step he is asked 4461 02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:31,600 will you 4462 02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:34,000 use will this with america use military 4463 02:56:39,750 --> 02:56:36,960 force to defend taiwan 4464 02:56:41,190 --> 02:56:39,760 if china were to invade 4465 02:56:43,269 --> 02:56:41,200 and he did something that no other 4466 02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:43,279 president has ever done they've always 4467 02:56:46,710 --> 02:56:44,800 stayed away from this remark it's part 4468 02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:46,720 of the little game that's played and he 4469 02:56:49,750 --> 02:56:48,080 says yes 4470 02:56:51,670 --> 02:56:49,760 well guess what 4471 02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:51,680 china will have a response to that very 4472 02:56:57,110 --> 02:56:54,319 soon china's been testing the waters for 4473 02:56:59,110 --> 02:56:57,120 some time now firing missiles here and 4474 02:57:01,750 --> 02:56:59,120 invading getting into their space and 4475 02:57:04,469 --> 02:57:01,760 everything else and so the issue of a 4476 02:57:07,030 --> 02:57:04,479 ukraine situation developing in taiwan 4477 02:57:09,110 --> 02:57:07,040 which would be a hundred times worse 4478 02:57:11,110 --> 02:57:09,120 is now in play 4479 02:57:14,710 --> 02:57:11,120 and and the point i'm making is we 4480 02:57:17,110 --> 02:57:14,720 cannot continue to roll the dice 4481 02:57:19,269 --> 02:57:17,120 if we're going to have a nuclear war let 4482 02:57:21,110 --> 02:57:19,279 it be after disclosure 4483 02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:21,120 let at least get that out of the way 4484 02:57:25,830 --> 02:57:23,359 give the truth to the american people 4485 02:57:27,750 --> 02:57:25,840 and the world's people so at least when 4486 02:57:30,630 --> 02:57:27,760 the missiles are flying and cities are 4487 02:57:32,630 --> 02:57:30,640 going up in flames we will at least know 4488 02:57:34,389 --> 02:57:32,640 we're not alone in the universe and once 4489 02:57:36,230 --> 02:57:34,399 we're all gone well it's okay the 4490 02:57:38,389 --> 02:57:36,240 universe will continue there's other 4491 02:57:40,630 --> 02:57:38,399 civilizations and other tech and maybe 4492 02:57:42,550 --> 02:57:40,640 some of us are out there we were kind of 4493 02:57:45,190 --> 02:57:42,560 removed years ago or they have our dna 4494 02:57:47,990 --> 02:57:45,200 or something all right but the idea that 4495 02:57:50,309 --> 02:57:48,000 we continue to keep this truth 4496 02:57:52,150 --> 02:57:50,319 withheld and embargoed while the while 4497 02:57:54,630 --> 02:57:52,160 the nuclear proliferation continues and 4498 02:57:56,790 --> 02:57:54,640 the risk of war goes on and on and on 4499 02:57:58,630 --> 02:57:56,800 is absolute insanity 4500 02:58:00,870 --> 02:57:58,640 yeah yeah you're right and we're at the 4501 02:58:02,550 --> 02:58:00,880 end of the show i'll say this this risk 4502 02:58:05,590 --> 02:58:02,560 has always been there 4503 02:58:07,670 --> 02:58:05,600 um and and certainly we've been closer 4504 02:58:10,070 --> 02:58:07,680 to it than 4505 02:58:12,230 --> 02:58:10,080 than where we are right now uh we've 4506 02:58:13,750 --> 02:58:12,240 never been closer jimmy oh no plenty of 4507 02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:13,760 people there's people in our own 4508 02:58:16,830 --> 02:58:15,520 government saying that 4509 02:58:21,590 --> 02:58:16,840 cuban missile 4510 02:58:23,590 --> 02:58:21,600 crisis oh wow well hey i'm serious look 4511 02:58:25,990 --> 02:58:23,600 i will send you the links we have people 4512 02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:26,000 in our national security structure that 4513 02:58:29,190 --> 02:58:27,439 are absolutely going in front of the 4514 02:58:30,469 --> 02:58:29,200 press and saying we are having the 4515 02:58:32,950 --> 02:58:30,479 greatest 4516 02:58:34,389 --> 02:58:32,960 risk nuclear war than ever these words 4517 02:58:35,590 --> 02:58:34,399 have to be said 4518 02:58:38,070 --> 02:58:35,600 and and 4519 02:58:40,389 --> 02:58:38,080 and statements have to be put in check 4520 02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:40,399 and they need to be responded to steve i 4521 02:58:44,389 --> 02:58:42,319 absolutely and if and if we don't 4522 02:58:46,389 --> 02:58:44,399 somebody's not doing their job 4523 02:58:48,870 --> 02:58:46,399 any any former national security 4524 02:58:52,550 --> 02:58:48,880 cia guy or anything else that goes out 4525 02:58:54,710 --> 02:58:52,560 and says and to the press that we are at 4526 02:58:56,950 --> 02:58:54,720 greater risk than ever for nuclear war 4527 02:58:58,469 --> 02:58:56,960 who actually doesn't believe that he's 4528 02:59:01,830 --> 02:58:58,479 just saying it to try to get people's 4529 02:59:03,830 --> 02:59:01,840 attention not at all 4530 02:59:04,550 --> 02:59:03,840 not at all uh you're right about that 4531 02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:04,560 but 4532 02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:08,080 it's putin 4533 02:59:11,349 --> 02:59:09,040 that is 4534 02:59:13,349 --> 02:59:11,359 that has started this i no no i'm not 4535 02:59:15,030 --> 02:59:13,359 it's not a question of who who who's at 4536 02:59:17,030 --> 02:59:15,040 fault no 4537 02:59:19,349 --> 02:59:17,040 nuclear risk is nuclear risk it doesn't 4538 02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:19,359 matter who started it saying is you have 4539 02:59:23,990 --> 02:59:21,760 to respond to that rhetoric 4540 02:59:25,910 --> 02:59:24,000 you have to respond to it and and that's 4541 02:59:28,550 --> 02:59:25,920 that's it and we have to you just can't 4542 02:59:31,190 --> 02:59:28,560 let those words uh disappear into the 4543 02:59:33,269 --> 02:59:31,200 ether you have to respond to it 4544 02:59:35,990 --> 02:59:33,279 being said with that being said 4545 02:59:37,910 --> 02:59:36,000 um i've got 30 seconds i want to thank 4546 02:59:42,070 --> 02:59:37,920 you for coming on the show tonight a 4547 02:59:45,030 --> 02:59:42,080 very important uh week not only uh for 4548 02:59:48,150 --> 02:59:45,040 the ufo community but for all of the 4549 02:59:49,269 --> 02:59:48,160 world and the history of mankind um i'll 4550 02:59:51,910 --> 02:59:49,279 say this 4551 02:59:53,670 --> 02:59:51,920 that i'm not satisfied with this hearing 4552 02:59:56,309 --> 02:59:53,680 i thought it was great 4553 02:59:57,990 --> 02:59:56,319 but we cannot be satisfied we have to 4554 03:00:00,469 --> 02:59:58,000 have more of course 4555 03:00:03,030 --> 03:00:00,479 and that's it that's it and and and i 4556 03:00:05,990 --> 03:00:03,040 think that's uh where we are all right 4557 03:00:07,190 --> 03:00:06,000 now is that we want more we can never be 4558 03:00:09,349 --> 03:00:07,200 satisfied 4559 03:00:11,110 --> 03:00:09,359 not until we get disclosure itself and 4560 03:00:13,110 --> 03:00:11,120 before i leave i invite everybody to 4561 03:00:15,110 --> 03:00:13,120 follow me on twitter steve bassett or 4562 03:00:17,510 --> 03:00:15,120 paradigm research group also paradigm 4563 03:00:19,590 --> 03:00:17,520 research group on facebook i'm also on 4564 03:00:21,590 --> 03:00:19,600 linkedin feel free to follow me i need 4565 03:00:24,469 --> 03:00:21,600 to build i really need to build my 4566 03:00:26,550 --> 03:00:24,479 social media network right now because 4567 03:00:29,110 --> 03:00:26,560 again the the game is afoot 4568 03:00:30,389 --> 03:00:29,120 and uh and and the social media believe 4569 03:00:32,630 --> 03:00:30,399 it or not is going to play a very 4570 03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:32,640 important role and how this ends up it 4571 03:00:36,150 --> 03:00:34,000 already has 4572 03:00:37,990 --> 03:00:36,160 stephen bassett you're the best this is 4573 03:00:39,670 --> 03:00:38,000 why stephen and i get along oh you 4574 03:00:41,990 --> 03:00:39,680 should see us in private 4575 03:00:43,670 --> 03:00:42,000 we fight 4576 03:00:45,110 --> 03:00:43,680 why we don't fight 4577 03:00:47,670 --> 03:00:45,120 stephen you're the best man i look 4578 03:00:49,670 --> 03:00:47,680 forward to our next dinner over here and 4579 03:00:51,830 --> 03:00:49,680 it's gonna be a great one my friend 4580 03:00:53,750 --> 03:00:51,840 thank you so much great night on the 4581 03:00:54,950 --> 03:00:53,760 show i really appreciate it thank you so 4582 03:00:57,830 --> 03:00:54,960 much 4583 03:00:59,750 --> 03:00:57,840 and uh the links for stephen uh paradigm 4584 03:01:03,349 --> 03:00:59,760 research group of course are in social 4585 03:01:04,790 --> 03:01:03,359 media and over on our website another 4586 03:01:07,830 --> 03:01:04,800 great show tonight thank you so much 4587 03:01:11,190 --> 03:01:07,840 stephen this is night one 4588 03:01:12,550 --> 03:01:11,200 of our ufo hearing week here on fade to 4589 03:01:14,950 --> 03:01:12,560 black tomorrow night 4590 03:01:16,710 --> 03:01:14,960 sean cahill and a very special guest 4591 03:01:18,630 --> 03:01:16,720 baby two 4592 03:01:21,349 --> 03:01:18,640 fade to black is produced by hilton j 4593 03:01:23,830 --> 03:01:21,359 palm renee dennis and kevin 4594 03:01:25,990 --> 03:01:23,840 announcers are steam harder gene bateau 4595 03:01:26,790 --> 03:01:26,000 and mark d kobar webmasters drew the 4596 03:01:29,110 --> 03:01:26,800 geek 4597 03:01:31,190 --> 03:01:29,120 music doug aldridge intro spaceboy 4598 03:01:33,269 --> 03:01:31,200 spaceboymusic.com 4599 03:01:34,469 --> 03:01:33,279 fade to black is produced by kjcr for 4600 03:01:37,269 --> 03:01:34,479 the game changer network in this 4601 03:01:38,790 --> 03:01:37,279 broadcast owned the copyrighted 2022 by 4602 03:01:41,190 --> 03:01:38,800 fade to black and the game changer 4603 03:01:42,950 --> 03:01:41,200 network inc it cannot be re-broadcast 4604 03:01:44,710 --> 03:01:42,960 downloaded copied or used anywhere in 4605 03:01:46,070 --> 03:01:44,720 the known universe without written 4606 03:01:47,590 --> 03:01:46,080 permission from fade to block of the 4607 03:01:50,309 --> 03:01:47,600 game changer network camera's chimney 4608 03:01:51,910 --> 03:01:50,319 church this was night one 4609 03:01:54,790 --> 03:01:51,920 tomorrow night 4610 03:01:56,710 --> 03:01:54,800 is number two 4611 03:01:59,990 --> 03:01:56,720 i'm you know jimmy church until tomorrow 4612 03:02:12,120 --> 03:02:00,000 night i want everybody to be safe